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Old 12-27-2018, 08:19 PM   #61
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with the glaring exception of garson, noodling and wanking all over the place, ruining everything.

fucker.

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 08:21 PM   #62
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Kenny is an absolute god among pocket drummers. (I in no way mean to pigeonhole him as merely a pocket drummer but holy shit he is incredible at that THING.) I think it makes sense that Billy sought Kenny out to play in the style of Adore because that music really needs a deep, tight consistent pocket almost like a drum machine. No one does that in rock music like Kenny! All hail the god of rock sidemen! I’m serious.

(In the words of Foolofatook, I get emotional about this stuff.)

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 08:21 PM   #63
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i'm sorry, did you just take issue with a bald member of Smashing Pumpkins?

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 08:22 PM   #64
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i never really minded Garson's "Disney routine" on the Adore stuff

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 08:23 PM   #65
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Yeah I don’t man, Garson is kind of universally hailed as a genius. What are you even smoking?

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 08:25 PM   #66
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It happens to all men at some point, don’t worry.

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 08:25 PM   #67
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Hahahahahahhahahahaha

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 08:27 PM   #68
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Right now the actual Kenny Aronoff is reading this forum thinking, “wow these people REALLY need help...and I worked for Corgan and Mellencamp.”

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 08:47 PM   #69
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Wow what an embarrassing thread

Anyone seen the doc Hired Gun from a few years back? I wanna say I or someone else bought it up here. It's about hired backing musicians and has a great segment about Kenny and how he got his start.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4026034/

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:21 PM   #70
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Wow what an embarrassing thread

Anyone seen the doc Hired Gun from a few years back? I wanna say I or someone else bought it up here. It's about hired backing musicians and has a great segment about Kenny and how he got his start.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4026034/
This thread is some of my best work.

I still say that the baldness-factor played a significant hand in who he hired. It was the first new tour cycle that Billy went into while being completely bald as a cue-ball and he just so happens to hire 3 other musicians who are also completely bald as a cue-ball? Come on... We're talking about the guy Sharon Osborne says hired ugly people to be around him so he didn't look as ugly. Billy Corgan was one of the most image conscious musicians of the era. No way that shit is a coincidence.

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:25 PM   #71
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lol u whack bro

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:33 PM   #72
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Just re-reading this thread now. For Netphoria historic purposes, it should be mentioned that Aronoff mentions in his book that Billy Corgan had instructed that he shave his head completely bald!!!

That is a fact!

The theory has legs, folks.

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:36 PM   #73
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In that case, he hired Kenny first and asked him to shave his head second. So his baldness wouldn’t have played a part in him getting the gig. Thus, the theory has legs, one of which is gimpy.

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:40 PM   #74
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In that case, he hired Kenny first and asked him to shave his head second. So his baldness wouldn’t have played a part in him getting the gig. Thus, the theory has legs, one of which is gimpy.
He was already essentially completely bald aside from a little bit of the "George Costanza look" as Billy called it. Still would've worked perfectly for the bald look he was going for.

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:42 PM   #75
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Hmm. Fair point. And maybe it was partly a case of bald man affirmative action. According to episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm, this is totally a thing.

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:53 PM   #76
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Haha exactly! That's a hilarious episode. Larry see's the guy out in public and he's wearing a toupee so he fires him.

Billy was as image conscientious as it came in those days, the bald look was definitely a statement or perhaps even used as a way to make his own baldness not stand out so much... But no way was it simply happenstance.

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:54 PM   #77
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Someone should shoot Billy a question about this the next time he does an Instagram Q &A

 
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Old 12-27-2018, 09:59 PM   #78
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It's easy to forget now, but all people ever talked about from about 96-98 was Billy's bald head. It was something always addressed in interviews and radio features... It probably pissed Billy off to no end and as we all know the bald head was simply a cover for his rapidly increasing hair-loss.

The Adore touring bands image was simply a tongue and cheek response to all of the previous hysteria... I assume Billy's mindset was something like "Oh yeah? It's a big deal that I'm bald is it? Here, get a load of Smashing Pumpkins now"

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 08:24 AM   #79
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The 90s was when it became "cool" for balding men to shave their heads completely.

Now, I would argue, it is "cool" for balding men to let it grow wild and free regardless (see indie men)

I think Billy's bald head is actually off-trend now and he should let it grow wild and free as a matter of importance.

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 09:16 AM   #80
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I still can't believe Billy kicked Matt Walker outta the band for this fucking guy
http://www.drumsoloartist.com/Site/D...nnyAronoff.gif

They literally needed 2 other drummers with him to try and maintain the sound
The percussion on the adore tour was fucking outstanding.

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 09:17 AM   #81
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There was some Atlanta show that was probably the best bootleg I’ve ever heard.

The drumming on pug and Ava adore were my favorite things.

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 09:19 AM   #82
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Also if anyone can find a link to that show please lmk

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 10:28 AM   #83
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I always used to think Kenny seemed like kind of a wanker, but then I saw him in that hired hands documentary and he actually seems like a really cool guy.

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 10:56 AM   #84
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i still think he's just Paul Shaffer in disguise

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 11:15 AM   #85
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so ashamed to admit that i know who that is

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 11:31 AM   #86
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Paul Shaffer? Why?

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 12:10 PM   #87
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SP on the Adore tour had 4 guys without a single hair on their heads.

You're telling me that just happened to be a "happy" coincidence?.... get real.

It was another awful style direction put into place by the tyrant Corgan.
It’s incredible how stupid you are.

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 12:49 PM   #88
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Paul Shaffer? Why?
I see that I have much to teach you about innate senescence.

Lesson #1: Never admit to watching any television.

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 12:56 PM   #89
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idk fuzzy might be onto something here

 
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Old 12-28-2018, 10:25 PM   #90
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It’s incredible how stupid you are.
If you wanna pepper me with insults, do it with the private message feature. Don't publicly berate me in an attempt to appear righteous.

 
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