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09-19-2011, 09:50 PM | #1 |
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Ron Paul
is supportive of legalizing marijuana therefore gets my vote.
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09-19-2011, 10:57 PM | #2 |
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cool story bro
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09-19-2011, 11:00 PM | #3 |
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Thanks my dude.
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09-19-2011, 11:02 PM | #4 |
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Damn I wish I could give you more postive rep. But hey so I don't look like a flaming idiot. The city of miami beach had a meeting about decriminalizing small amounts of marijuana last month.
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09-19-2011, 11:07 PM | #5 |
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Oh, how'd that go? I live in Coral Springs now so getting closer to the dark side (Miami).
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09-19-2011, 11:12 PM | #6 |
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Yes I hate miami with a passion( I live in south broward) It didn't go anywhere like I excepted. But it is progress that they even talked about something like this. If you'd like to help legalize in Florida go here. http://pufmm.org/ I swear its not lemonparty. I love the ganja to much play games like that.
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09-19-2011, 11:14 PM | #7 |
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That's true, it's definitely progress. I'll check it out.
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09-19-2011, 11:15 PM | #8 |
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I got 4 people including myself to sign the papers not much but still better than what the average weed smoker is doing to help.
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09-19-2011, 11:22 PM | #9 |
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Eulogy doesn't like weed.
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09-19-2011, 11:34 PM | #10 |
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09-19-2011, 11:32 PM | #11 |
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is extremely pro-life, a goldbug nut, a federal reserve conspiracy theorist, wants to repeal child labor laws, repeal anti-trust laws, repeal the 14th amendment, and disagrees with the civil rights act therefore he will never get my vote.
He's not racist per se, but he is against any laws designed to counteract racism; or rather, strongly believes in everybody's god given right to be racist. He's an embarrassment to actual libertarians I respect: A Libertarian’s Lament: Why Ron Paul Is an Embarrassment to the Creed |
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09-19-2011, 11:36 PM | #12 | |
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but you know whatever |
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09-20-2011, 01:09 AM | #13 | |
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Besides any president elect will want to some crazy crap anyways and this is his baggage. |
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09-20-2011, 07:31 AM | #14 | |
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his backward ass ideology is his baggage? are you serious? also you didn't respond to the factual impossibility of his being able to legalize marijuana. are you 12? people like you drive me fucking insane. |
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09-20-2011, 11:17 AM | #15 |
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Actually he said that he'd be willing to let the states choose for themselves to legalize/decriminalize and stop federal raids on medical marijuana patients and med shops that are in compliance with that particular state's law.
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09-20-2011, 07:50 PM | #16 | |
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also he was "held back in school because of football" i was honestly surprised he clung to that lie this long |
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12-20-2011, 06:37 PM | #17 |
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09-19-2011, 11:45 PM | #18 |
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right when i walked into work today my supervisor gave me a ron paul bumper sticker and told me to put it on my car. i was like 'uh....'
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09-20-2011, 01:45 AM | #19 |
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who cares about ron paul?
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09-20-2011, 02:18 AM | #20 |
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not the msm, amirite
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09-20-2011, 12:22 PM | #21 |
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I agree with Eulogy, I'm all for pot legalization but I'd never support Ron Paul. TVtropes can explain it better than I:
Well-Intentioned Extremist and Principles Zealot Also, as shitty as the UN is, we can't really pull out of it. It's pretty much impossible and if we tried we'd start major conflict. |
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09-20-2011, 01:02 PM | #22 |
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While I think some of his ideas are worth supporting (he's spot-on about all the money being spent on the wars in the Middle-East), the vast majority if his political beliefs fall in the unfeasible to batshit insane range. Not voting for him, now or ever.
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09-20-2011, 05:19 PM | #23 | |
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GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul wins California straw poll ***** won with 44.9% of the votes, Texas Gov. Rick Perry came in second with 29.3% of the votes, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney came in third with 8.8% of the votes." http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-17/p..._s=PM:POLITICS |
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09-20-2011, 05:54 PM | #24 | |
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Sounds like regurgitated msm pap... Extremely pro-life: Do you realize he's a doctor who's delivered thousands of babies? This is a non-issue for me personally on whether I would vote for a candidate, but nice to know you would hold it against him. A goldbug nut: And??????? Your point is? Most goldbugs have been called nuts since the price was $300 an ounce. It's now $1800, but non-thinking retards such as yourself would never listen to such nuts and as such, the dollar has lost 50% of its value over that time while Gold has risen 500%. That is nuts when you think about it, but remember gold-bugs have been right about the economy while those who call Golbugs "nuts" have been wrong. Federal Reserve Conspiracy Theorist: Well, here's the biggest indicator that goldbugs could look to to understand why Gold was destined to rise in value while the dollar would lose its purchasing power. But what conspiracy theory are you railing about against Ron Paul regarding the Fed? They exist. They print money backed by air and that's a big reason why the economy sucks right now. Repeal Anti-Trust Laws: This is an esoteric argument that's been building for decades. If you care to engage, here's a good start: http://mises.org/Books/antitrust.pdf Many lawsuits brought on by the government have been attacks on entrepreneurial success and efficiency. repeal the 14th amendment: Two-words, Anchor Babies. It's not just that illegal immigrants come over the border to have their children, its that they get a welfare check for each child they bear. There's a bunch of illegal mexican women here in California with 3 and 4 kids getting up to 4 grand a month in welfare for years on end. I see the movement to repeal the 14th amendment as a desire to stop that fraud. Disagrees with the Civil Rights Act: He disagrees with it on the issue of the Fed infringing on property rights. This could be libertarianism as feudalism as some suggest and I might agree. He'd be better off dropping the rhetoric from this altogether but as a pol he's being consistent in his beliefs. |
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So Ron Paul's greatest issue is a non-issue to you, natch. I do not have a desire to put someone like this in the position to appoint judges. It's nice to know you don't really think through things to figure out why someone who's pro choice would hold it against him. Quote:
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As a rule, libertarians have an unhealthy tendency to apply their principles without due regard to America's history of state-enforced slavery, apartheid, and sexism, or to the many ways in which the legacy of these insidious practices persists to this day. Paul represents this tendency at his worst. The Civil Rights Act of 1964, Paul has argued, led to "a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society." It’s hard to interpret Paul’s position on this matter in a kind light. During the last campaign season, James Kirchick revealed in the pages of this publication that in the late 1980s and early 1990s Paul had published newsletters under his name containing rank bigotry against African Americans and gays. Paul claimed he did not write the columns in question or even know about them. Whether you believe that or not, the newsletter scandal highlighted Paul's longstanding ties with figures, such as Lew Rockwell, with a history of catering to racist and nativist sentiments for political gain. But let’s give Paul the benefit of the doubt, and assume his opposition to anti-discrimination legislation is a principled stand untainted by prejudice. Even then, it’s not so clear his stance is underwritten by his stated principles. Paul's third principle of a free society says that "Justly acquired property is privately owned by individuals and voluntary groups, and this ownership cannot be arbitrarily voided by governments." I follow Ron Paul enthusiasts in endorsing this principle wholeheartedly. Nevertheless, it's hard to say exactly what "justly acquired property" amounts to in a country built in no small part by slave labor on land stolen from indigenous people. How much of Thomas Jefferson's property was justly acquired? These issues get complicated fast. Most of us think there's a sort of statute of limitation on the sins of our fathers, and for good reason. But it’s absolutely undeniable that the distribution of property and power in America partly reflects hundreds of years of constant and systemic violation of precisely those rights Paul claims to prize. Anti-discrimination legislation indeed puts some limits on rights to property and free association. But in light of America's cruel history of official social, legal, and economic inequality, it's hard to see these limits as "arbitrary," even if we want to pretend, for the sake of social peace, that the distribution of property reflects a history of mostly just acquisition. Again, it appears that Paul is least tolerant of ambiguity and complexity when it muddies the case for protecting privilege. To deny that structural discrimination, with or without the backing of the state, can limit an individual's liberty more injuriously than a sales tax requires the triumph of dogmatism over commonsense. But Paul’s career is a case study of such bullheadedness. Not only does he deny that anti-discrimination statutes have anything to do with promoting liberty, he insists, again and again, that anti-discrimination policies have only heightened resentments between man and woman, black and white, and do nothing whatsoever to improve social amity. He would have us believe that the enormous gains over the past several decades in racial and gender equality, the dramatic rise of mixed-race marriages, and the happy detente in the gender wars have all occurred despite recent attempts to rectify centuries of legal oppression through law. I know you didn't read that. It's the internet, you disagree with it, so why bother. Now scurry back to your fringe websites and google search for someone else's opinion you don't fully understand and regurgitate it here as a rebuttal and embarrass yourself again. |
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09-20-2011, 06:42 PM | #26 |
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lolz @ omega
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09-20-2011, 06:45 PM | #27 |
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nice retort. Next time just say uncle.
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09-20-2011, 06:57 PM | #28 |
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There's no point. I've completely dismantled you previously in other threads already.
You do not operate in reality. Anybody with any knowledge of the subjects will find your stunningly, ignorant statements damning enough alone. |
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09-20-2011, 10:43 PM | #29 | |
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That's the biggest chickenshit answer you could give. You haven't dismantled anything but you may want to start on your inability to recognize ad-hominem personal attacks does not an argument make. |
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09-21-2011, 01:32 AM | #30 | |
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i know that you think that means you're ahead of the curve but it ends up when you make absolutely idiotic contradictory statments that pretty much go against what you said already. remember that act that was repealed in the 90s that you complain about all the time, dude? THAT'S REGULATION. ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST IT |
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