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12-09-2014, 10:42 AM | #151 |
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The Smiths are New Wave
They're like melodic punk and that's what New Wave is |
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12-09-2014, 10:47 AM | #152 |
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Seriously what post-punk refers to is the music styles that came up after Punk tore into 70's rock and rewrote the game. Everyone was trying to make the music of the future. Some artists went full experimental like say, TG or Cabaret Voltaire, but other groups reached back to The Beatles and gave us New Wave
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12-09-2014, 10:48 AM | #153 |
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Like New Order is post-punk and within post-punk they're New Wave
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12-09-2014, 11:16 AM | #154 | |
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Also, nobody ever called The Smiths new wave. They're early indie rock/alternative (back before alt came to mean grunge or grungeish) And while post punk on paper would seem to mean anything that came out of punk, that's simply not the accepted definition. Since you're so keep on googling, wikipedia it. |
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12-09-2014, 11:17 AM | #155 |
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yo dawg i heard you like labels so we labelled all your labels
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12-09-2014, 11:31 AM | #156 | |
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I mean if you want to be even more specific, the bands that don't use synths but are still new wave are called Jangle Pop for the most part. Moz def has a root in Punk |
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12-09-2014, 11:33 AM | #157 |
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You can google New Wave and it will have a separate wiki page but in that wiki page it does talk about it belonging to post-punk.
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12-09-2014, 11:47 AM | #158 |
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12-09-2014, 11:49 AM | #159 |
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Hey he told me to wiki it
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12-09-2014, 11:52 AM | #160 |
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Post-Punk can basically be re-written as "Dance Punk" and it's what all the sub genres have in common from New Wave, Jangle and Synth Pop, to Goth and industrial
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12-09-2014, 11:54 AM | #161 |
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what about post-retro-post-post-punk, elphy? am i on the right track?
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12-09-2014, 11:57 AM | #162 |
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Please raise your hand and wait to be called on
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12-09-2014, 12:10 PM | #163 |
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let me just say that when i claimed the strokes to not be "post-punk revival" it was not a nitpicky comment meant to put them in a "new wave" box instead, i just said it because they don't sound like joy division or public image ltd.
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12-09-2014, 12:10 PM | #164 |
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& they're not gloomy
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12-09-2014, 12:11 PM | #165 |
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THATS NOT WHAT POST PUNK REFERS TO
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12-09-2014, 12:13 PM | #166 |
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boy you really care about this shit don't you
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12-09-2014, 12:14 PM | #167 |
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they sound more like the rolling stones song "doom & gloom" than any actual doomy, gloomy post-punk music
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12-09-2014, 12:25 PM | #168 |
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New wave often has nothing to do with post punk. Synth pop is a sub genre of new wave. Synth pop and post punk couldn't be any more different.
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12-09-2014, 12:30 PM | #169 |
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Well "synth" pop is like not a real genre idk
Like 99% of pop uses synthetics. But bands like Depeche Mode and Soft Cell did it in a Punk way and that's why they're post-punk |
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12-09-2014, 12:33 PM | #170 |
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Mals
You're confusing Gothic Post-Punk with all Post-Punk |
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12-09-2014, 12:33 PM | #171 |
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Hahaha
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12-09-2014, 12:33 PM | #172 |
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Lol at you calling Depeche Mode post punk. You're really reaching there.
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12-09-2014, 12:36 PM | #173 |
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They are though
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12-09-2014, 12:37 PM | #174 |
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I want to know what your definition of post-punk is
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12-09-2014, 12:48 PM | #175 |
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What part does it say new wave belong to post punk? I didn't see anything referring to new wave as a post punk subgenre. they identify them as having similar roots but not as being the same.
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12-09-2014, 12:50 PM | #176 |
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Ok no just no. Your definition of post punk is literal. To you it means anything that came after punk that might have been inspired by punk aesthetics. That's just not so.
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12-09-2014, 12:52 PM | #177 |
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12-09-2014, 12:53 PM | #178 |
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12-09-2014, 12:53 PM | #179 |
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Like are Wire and Gang of Four the only post-punk bands?
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12-09-2014, 12:54 PM | #180 |
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It's not about it being after Punk. Like I said, it's "Dance Punk"
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