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Old 12-29-2014, 12:24 PM   #181
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They really are

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:38 PM   #182
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So Coldplay and Oasis do have something in common. They were never cool bands within the Britpop scene. Both always looked down upon by indie rock fans and hipsters.
Britpop was over by 1998.
Coldplay is another era & they were only considered 'indie' for about six months.
Same deal with Snow Patrol - not a Britpop band.
Oasis were not looked down on by the indie crowd until that bloated cokey third record and even then people forgave them because of the love for the first two records.
Just looked at the initial post again and, as others have commented, Pulp are top tier in any language. Common People was the greatest song to emerge from the whole scene IMO.

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:40 PM   #183
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Pulp sound so much like The Cure. I like them

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:09 PM   #184
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I was doing some guitar pedal research and i remember you asking some effect questions obe time so if younwant to sound like smiths or early 17 seconds cure you need a chorus pedal.

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:27 PM   #185
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I know 17 seconds is all Chorus pedal. It's the only pedal I own.

I learned to play electric guitar with 17 Seconds and a Chorus pedal

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:29 PM   #186
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In Your House is the first song I learned to play

Best Cure album

Second song I learned was Come as you Are because again I love that chorus effect

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:33 PM   #187
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That's a flange fwiw

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 03:38 PM   #188
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Which one?

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 06:45 PM   #189
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:11 PM   #190
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Are you sure? Everyone I've met plays it with Chorus. Wiki says it's chorus

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:31 PM   #191
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Pulp sound so much like The Cure. I like them
I love both bands but what!?

Examples please....

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 09:39 PM   #192
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Pulp sound so much like The Cure. I like them
There's some wonky 80s synths in common but that's all.

In fact they couldn't be more different.

Robert Smith's whole schtick is to ESCAPE suburban banality through the Holy trinity of fantasy, success and exotic literary allusion (A Forest, Jumping Someone Else's Train & Killing an Arab), while Jarvis' schtick is to EMBRACE that same banality, rendering every last excruciating detail and fumbled kiss into art with a capital A.

So, no, don't see the Cure/Pulp comparison much.

 
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I'm not talking about the lyrics. Which is why I say "sound like". I'm not deep enough into Pulp lyrics to comment on them.

The synths, vocal delivery, and song strunctures are where I hear it

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 09:54 PM   #194
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nah even at their most gothiest in the 80s they were rubbin more shoulders with The The than The Cure

cure did "fuck wit" something remotely considerable as britpop for a minute or two though, every now and then (in the 90z mostly)

 
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Old 12-29-2014, 10:10 PM   #195
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I'm talking more about Pop Cure than Goth Cure. Pulp do not sound remotely gothy no

 
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Old 12-30-2014, 12:02 AM   #196
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I'm talking more about Pop Cure than Goth Cure. Pulp do not sound remotely gothy no
Fair enough.
Jarvis was the best lyricist of the 90s IMO, as piercing and cinematic as Morrissey at his best but without the cloying self-regard. Take a song like Babies - weird, heartbreaking, specific-but-elusive and utterly personal - I mean who the fuck else writes lyrics/songs remotely like that?

 
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i was gonna state in some thread i dont remember which recently that Cocker was one of the best 90's lyricist but then didn't. I've got the book of his lyrics that was published.

Babies...one of the great one for sure, there's a lot of songs with a similar theme in his work, young nostalgic failed loves or girls being with other guys or both....babies, disco 2000, do you remember the first time? Pink glove....possibly some are about the same girls... Other great lyrics, Bar Italia, Like a friend, mile end, and common people of course. He definitely has a knack for turning very personal lyrics into somehow something universal..or relatable. Not many lyricists can do that. Most who are very relatable tend to also be kinda vague. I think he often achieves that with just a few well placed and delivered lines. Suddenly it makes it seem like you lived the exact same situation even if you didn't really. Or like common people, we've all known slummers. They were maybe not from greece or studied culture at st martin's college, but we've known them.

 
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Old 12-31-2014, 10:58 AM   #198
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Tier 1: my favorite bands
Tier 2: shit I don't care about
Tier 3: your favorite bands

Great thread CW

 
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Old 12-31-2014, 02:01 PM   #199
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this thread is hilarious because of Spiritualized & who the fuck is "I am Kloot"

wow

 
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