Title of new album: Shiny And Oh So Bright, Vol. 1 / LP: No Past. No Future. No Sun - Page 38

Ihaguitar · 11-19-2018, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mals Marola

still think this album's worst offense was the cotton-ball neutering of JC's drum tracks. Like they metaphorical soaked up all the natural reverb & resonance of his recordings & tossed them in the trash w/ Rubin's blue & green footlong sandwich wrappers

When drums and cymbols lose their dynamics this is what you get.

SPLATTER · 11-19-2018, 04:23 PM

it's fascinating how everything bill does gets worse and worse

imagining how much worse he can get is hard to do, but i look forward to the journey

Zer0 Hour · 11-19-2018, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SPLATTER

it's fascinating how everything bill does gets worse and worse

imagining how much worse he can get is hard to do, but i look forward to the journey

Imagine how awful it would be if Billy released a full album of Journey covers.

Ihaguitar · 11-19-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0 Hour

Imagine how awful it would be if Billy released a full album of Journey covers.

That might actually be the best thing since Zwan.

New Art Rioter · 11-19-2018, 05:01 PM

Pitchfork digging the new album -

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums...future-no-sun/

bigoltitties · 11-19-2018, 05:51 PM

Knights of Malta - 3/5 How the fuck does Billy get away with adding these backing vocals?? Still, the positivity feels genuine, nice groove, great little guitar bursts and the gospel is good.

Silvery - 4/5 just a very solid tune with absolutely no cringe

Solara - 2/5 still as shit as the day it came out

Travels - 3/5 We've all heard this song before, Billy has done this vocal melody a million times so it's a little played out but still pleasant

Alienation 2/5 there's some nice flourishes here and there but this is a drawn out slog and does nothing for me

With Sympathy - 2/5 the components of a good song are there in the chords, but it doesn't develop into anything

Marchin On - 2/5 If it had a ripping chorus akin to The Everlasting Gaze it would be great, but it's one dimensional Zeitgeist tone kills it for me

Seek and You Shall Destroy 1/5 - Sounds like someone (Billy?) thought it would be cool to have a song called Seek and You Shall Destroy and then tried to write a song called that. Just a pointless waste of everyone involved's time and talent.

Summary - Poor. What you would expect from a group who spent next to no time trying to knock together some songs. Big regression from Ogilala which gave me hope that Billy had moved on from trying to resurrect his 30 year old self and write big rock songs, which is what he seems to think SP should be all about.

bright_doom · 11-19-2018, 05:56 PM

I hate to say it but Solara is growing on me.
Might be my favourite song on the LP.
Sounds good on big speakers.
I'm sorry.

FoolofaTook · 11-19-2018, 06:05 PM

yeah i'm sorry too.

(for you)

bright_doom · 11-19-2018, 06:07 PM

I understand if I get banned.

run2pee · 11-19-2018, 06:36 PM

In the context of the album, solaras not as bad as i initially felt. It’s just there, it’s ok i guess

The tru failure of solara was its hilarious inability to shoulder the burden of being the comeback single from a certain group of very special dudes recording together again for the 1st time in nearly two decades

myosis · 11-19-2018, 06:43 PM

the pitchfork review is actually quite terrible and self-important, as many pitchfork reviews have been.

run2pee · 11-19-2018, 06:46 PM

Yes let me go on record that the criteria applied by that pitchfork reviewer cemented more fully than ever my desire to punch pitchfork in the (tiny/hard) dick

myosis · 11-19-2018, 06:49 PM

solara's job seems to be simply to close side A with more of a bang...

T&T · 11-19-2018, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by myosis

the pitchfork review is actually quite terrible and self-important, as many pitchfork reviews have been.

yet totally on point. 3.4 was generous.
It's only self important in that bothered reviewing it.

ninsp · 11-19-2018, 07:28 PM

I’m surprised Pitchfork even reviewed it. They normally only review things relevant in 2018

ninsp · 11-19-2018, 07:28 PM

Saying that, I agree with most of their review but it’s still a 6.5/10 for me

houseofglass11 · 11-19-2018, 07:53 PM

The pitchfork review was good and hit all major points as to why SosB isn’t that great.

Kahlo · 11-19-2018, 07:54 PM

Talking of irrelevant, did you see they reviewed Bad Witch? 8.0

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums...ils-bad-witch/

houseofglass11 · 11-19-2018, 07:56 PM

Never heard of this NIN band, I’ll have to look into them.

ninsp · 11-19-2018, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahlo

Talking of irrelevant, did you see they reviewed Bad Witch? 8.0

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums...ils-bad-witch/

That’s because Bad Witch is GREAT

myosis · 11-19-2018, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by houseofglass11

The pitchfork review was good and hit all major points as to why SosB isn’t that great.

it didn't make any point at all.

myosis · 11-19-2018, 09:01 PM

oh it made one point about lyrics...
otherwise it just repeats over and over that there is nothing to be found on the album, while talking about past albums.

myosis · 11-19-2018, 09:03 PM

guess i shouldn't expect fuzzy and houseofglass to understand how to write an interesting review.

houseofglass11 · 11-19-2018, 09:22 PM

Don’t be mad because a bad review makes you second guess liking an album. Perhaps you should have more confidence in your beliefs.

houseofglass11 · 11-19-2018, 09:26 PM

Is this one more to your liking?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanro.../#27e27e1e6a9d

MonumentsRocks · 11-19-2018, 09:44 PM

What seemed most objectively correct in the pitchfork review is that the lyrics are like some numerical code that is indecipherable to humans. They read like the random sentences you can create on this website https://www.textfixer.com/tools/random-sentences.php . Billy's lyrics have always been cryptic, but I could attach some meaning, and it was kind of fun to do, but reading/listening to the lyrics of the SosB, I can't make jack shit out of almost any of it. It does kind of remind me of brain tumor-like behavior, before John McCain came out publicly that he had brain cancer, and he was saying some things that had people scratching their heads. Billy is lucid in interviews, but his lyrical side has gone completely nuts.

redbreegull · 11-19-2018, 09:51 PM

Like I said recently, he has become incredibly formulaic in his lyrics. All songs now have lyrics that are either oh baby let's rock yeah yeah come on, or they go for this infantile storybook kind of psuedo-spiritual mumbo jumbo

tweedyburd · 11-19-2018, 09:51 PM

"This kind of terminal vacancy has spread like blight in Corgan’s songwriting—2014’s Monuments to an Elegy had a similar woolly blankness, a self-erasing anonymity that seemed to proceed from the assumption that if Corgan stood as still as possible, maybe no one would notice him on the radio and kick him off."

I hate Pitchfork but that is painfully accurate.

Mals Marola · 11-19-2018, 09:52 PM

at least Pitchfork attempted an actual review & not some half-assed "snarky malarky" portrayed through a Billy Corgan phone call or something

actually, i could use a good sarcastic Bill Corgan phone call skit right about now; damnit Pitfork!

myosis · 11-19-2018, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

Is this one more to your liking?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanro.../#27e27e1e6a9d

yes it is a much better review

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11-19-2018, 04:23 PM	#1112
SPLATTER Demi-God Location: New York Posts: 424	it's fascinating how everything bill does gets worse and worse imagining how much worse he can get is hard to do, but i look forward to the journey

11-19-2018, 05:01 PM	#1115
New Art Rioter Apocalyptic Poster Location: vortex of lost souls Posts: 1,971	Pitchfork digging the new album - https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums...future-no-sun/

11-19-2018, 05:51 PM	#1116
bigoltitties Pledge Posts: 137	Knights of Malta - 3/5 How the fuck does Billy get away with adding these backing vocals?? Still, the positivity feels genuine, nice groove, great little guitar bursts and the gospel is good. Silvery - 4/5 just a very solid tune with absolutely no cringe Solara - 2/5 still as shit as the day it came out Travels - 3/5 We've all heard this song before, Billy has done this vocal melody a million times so it's a little played out but still pleasant Alienation 2/5 there's some nice flourishes here and there but this is a drawn out slog and does nothing for me With Sympathy - 2/5 the components of a good song are there in the chords, but it doesn't develop into anything Marchin On - 2/5 If it had a ripping chorus akin to The Everlasting Gaze it would be great, but it's one dimensional Zeitgeist tone kills it for me Seek and You Shall Destroy 1/5 - Sounds like someone (Billy?) thought it would be cool to have a song called Seek and You Shall Destroy and then tried to write a song called that. Just a pointless waste of everyone involved's time and talent. Summary - Poor. What you would expect from a group who spent next to no time trying to knock together some songs. Big regression from Ogilala which gave me hope that Billy had moved on from trying to resurrect his 30 year old self and write big rock songs, which is what he seems to think SP should be all about.

11-19-2018, 05:56 PM	#1117
bright_doom Apocalyptic Poster Location: Machina Reissue HQ Posts: 1,005	I hate to say it but Solara is growing on me. Might be my favourite song on the LP. Sounds good on big speakers. I'm sorry.

11-19-2018, 06:05 PM	#1118
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	yeah i'm sorry too. (for you)

11-19-2018, 06:07 PM	#1119
bright_doom Apocalyptic Poster Location: Machina Reissue HQ Posts: 1,005	I understand if I get banned.

11-19-2018, 06:36 PM	#1120
run2pee Minion of Satan Location: An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom Posts: 7,755	In the context of the album, solaras not as bad as i initially felt. It’s just there, it’s ok i guess The tru failure of solara was its hilarious inability to shoulder the burden of being the comeback single from a certain group of very special dudes recording together again for the 1st time in nearly two decades

11-19-2018, 06:43 PM	#1121
myosis Minion of Satan Location: the institute Posts: 6,421	the pitchfork review is actually quite terrible and self-important, as many pitchfork reviews have been.

11-19-2018, 06:46 PM	#1122
run2pee Minion of Satan Location: An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom Posts: 7,755	Yes let me go on record that the criteria applied by that pitchfork reviewer cemented more fully than ever my desire to punch pitchfork in the (tiny/hard) dick

11-19-2018, 06:49 PM	#1123
myosis Minion of Satan Location: the institute Posts: 6,421	solara's job seems to be simply to close side A with more of a bang...

11-19-2018, 07:28 PM	#1125
ninsp Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,720	I’m surprised Pitchfork even reviewed it. They normally only review things relevant in 2018

11-19-2018, 07:28 PM	#1126
ninsp Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,720	Saying that, I agree with most of their review but it’s still a 6.5/10 for me

11-19-2018, 07:53 PM	#1127
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,692	The pitchfork review was good and hit all major points as to why SosB isn’t that great.

11-19-2018, 07:54 PM	#1128
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	Talking of irrelevant, did you see they reviewed Bad Witch? 8.0 https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums...ils-bad-witch/

11-19-2018, 07:56 PM	#1129
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,692	Never heard of this NIN band, I’ll have to look into them.

11-19-2018, 09:01 PM	#1132
myosis Minion of Satan Location: the institute Posts: 6,421	oh it made one point about lyrics... otherwise it just repeats over and over that there is nothing to be found on the album, while talking about past albums.

11-19-2018, 09:03 PM	#1133
myosis Minion of Satan Location: the institute Posts: 6,421	guess i shouldn't expect fuzzy and houseofglass to understand how to write an interesting review.

11-19-2018, 09:22 PM	#1134
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,692	Don’t be mad because a bad review makes you second guess liking an album. Perhaps you should have more confidence in your beliefs.

11-19-2018, 09:26 PM	#1135
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,692	Is this one more to your liking? https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanro.../#27e27e1e6a9d

11-19-2018, 09:44 PM	#1136
MonumentsRocks Ownz Posts: 633	What seemed most objectively correct in the pitchfork review is that the lyrics are like some numerical code that is indecipherable to humans. They read like the random sentences you can create on this website https://www.textfixer.com/tools/random-sentences.php . Billy's lyrics have always been cryptic, but I could attach some meaning, and it was kind of fun to do, but reading/listening to the lyrics of the SosB, I can't make jack shit out of almost any of it. It does kind of remind me of brain tumor-like behavior, before John McCain came out publicly that he had brain cancer, and he was saying some things that had people scratching their heads. Billy is lucid in interviews, but his lyrical side has gone completely nuts.

11-19-2018, 09:51 PM	#1137
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	Like I said recently, he has become incredibly formulaic in his lyrics. All songs now have lyrics that are either oh baby let's rock yeah yeah come on, or they go for this infantile storybook kind of psuedo-spiritual mumbo jumbo

11-19-2018, 09:51 PM	#1138
tweedyburd Ownz Location: greensboro, nc U.S. Posts: 720	"This kind of terminal vacancy has spread like blight in Corgan’s songwriting—2014’s Monuments to an Elegy had a similar woolly blankness, a self-erasing anonymity that seemed to proceed from the assumption that if Corgan stood as still as possible, maybe no one would notice him on the radio and kick him off." I hate Pitchfork but that is painfully accurate.

11-19-2018, 09:52 PM	#1139
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	at least Pitchfork attempted an actual review & not some half-assed "snarky malarky" portrayed through a Billy Corgan phone call or something actually, i could use a good sarcastic Bill Corgan phone call skit right about now; damnit Pitfork!