New Arcade Fire

[TuralyonW3]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

why is rocking "immature." Power out is killer, wtf is not mature about it

you realize you're justifying the fact that you're turning into an adult contemporary fan.

no I fucking love power out, i'm just saying this is an alternative to that. now we have both. arcade fire is awesome.

[Trotskilicious]

well alright then

REBELLIONS (LIES)

[D.]

I like Funeral enough to keep it on the ol' XHD; I only liked probably three tracks on Neon Bible (No Cars Go, Intervention, and I don't even remember the other one) but I'm really digging the new one.

I didn't think it drags down all that much - it doesn't seem to be as long as it is.

[slunken]

fascinating

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by D.

I like Funeral enough to keep it on the ol' XHD; I only liked probably three tracks on Neon Bible (No Cars Go, Intervention, and I don't even remember the other one) but I'm really digging the new one.

Neon Bible > Funeral > The Suburbs

IMHO

[Luke de Spa]

why do bands release albums this long

same goes for three hour films and 1,000 page novels

just fucking stop already, you're being ridiculous

[Trotskilicious]

thing is though how many albums over an hour actually warrant that run time?

te three hour flick usually warrants it and 1000 page novels are rare these days unless it's Tomas Pynchon, and even then it takes real dedication to read it. Even harry potters at their most bloated and self infatuated clocked in at about 800 with large font.

[Trotskilicious]

i mean catch 22 is nearly 600 pages and it's worth every page.

[cocksure]

have you read infinite jest

[Trotskilicious]

not familiar with it i read nora roberts and dean r. koontz

[Luke de Spa]

but sometimes the 3 hour movie is david lynch's "dune"

or the 1,000 page novel is war and peace (okay it's 950 pages or whatever, close enough)

just shut up guys

[Trotskilicious]

haha dune

oh man the studio exec that was like "OH THIS DAVID LYNCH GUY IS HOT RIGHT NOW I BET HE'LL BE A PERFECT FIT!" is probably begging for change under an overpass right now.

[redbreegull]

George Lucas asked David Lynch to direct Return of the Jedi and he turned it down

[soniclovenoize]

That crazy fucker needs to make the rest of the Dune series immediatly. I would love to see Kyle Maclachlan's eyes burned out.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by soniclovenoize

You guys are free to hate it, that's cool. Next time I'll suggest something with cliche heavy drums, overly-processed power-chord guitars, synths and I'm-so-depressed-and-angsty lyrics.

sounds cool but i was looking more for ridiculous, opaque, quasi-political lyrics

[Trotskilicious]

and sprawl II is definitely a highlight on this album. i don't remember who said it first but I agree, this band needs to experiment more for the4th album.

[Sonic Johnny]

that was me, and I stand by that statement.

That said The Suburbs has grown on me enormously.

[wHATcOLOR]

at first i really didn't give a hoot about this because any impact it had was watered down by being so long and having a lot of bland songs, so i didn't really listen more than twice. then i went back last week and listened again and you can cut this down to like 6 or 8 songs and those songs are real good

[Ihaguitar]

Arcade Fire always came across as a bunch of twats to me. I havent even listened to the new album and I can be arsed downloading it.

[28if]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

thing is though how many albums over an hour actually warrant that run time?

te three hour flick usually warrants it and 1000 page novels are rare these days unless it's Tomas Pynchon, and even then it takes real dedication to read it. Even harry potters at their most bloated and self infatuated clocked in at about 800 with large font.

I have no problem with length (love Kozelek, Adore, and Victor Hugo) but yeah, it's about having enough to say to fill up the space. Unfortunately I gave Suburbs six or seven listens and I don't think it really does. I think it would be as good as Neon Bible if it were shorter/more dynamic. Still a good record though, say what you want about Arcade Fire being the indie/hipster posterboys but they're still a great group.

[Dogfighter28]

There are tons of hour+ albums that are great, including The Suburbs. In fact, I'd say these ones are some of my favorite EVER, not just out of the long ones:

Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
The Cure - Disintegration
Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile
Between the Buried and Me - Colors
Neurosis - A Sun That Never Sets
Opeth - Still Life
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
The Clash - London Calling
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Yr. Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
Modest Mouse - Lonesome Crowded West
Placebo - Without You I'm Nothing
Tortoise - TNT
Two Gallants - What the Toll Tells
Wilco - Being There
Drive-By Truckers - Decoration Day
Aesop Rock - Labor Days
Mogwai - Young Team
Soundgarden - Superunknown
Tom Waits - Nighthawks at the Diner
The Who - Quadrophenia

Give me too much over too little any day.

[cocksure]

nah, short albums (30 mins or less) ftw

[smashingjj]

yes albums that keep on dragging are far better than albums so good that they're too short

[yoshinobu's revenge]

i've probably listened to this album 20 times or more now. it has a handful of great songs and most of the rest are good but it still suffers from being too long without enough variety, so another *** for the plz experiment more on the next album. they're good at doing what they've covered but this is the 3rd album really.

[Trotskilicious]

yeah i'll say that this album has enough great songs on it like The title track, modern man, roccoco and mountains beyond mountains (which really brings to mind FM 1960 in Houston as well as the "hell strip" of I-10 on the east side of that festering pit) to really keep coming back and looking at it but Sprawl I is intensely bad and it's the end of a very trying, lengthy, soundalike pack of songs. I know dogfucker thinks he has to keep calling this a great album but I really have doubts starting with his list that he really has a very good definition of "great." The Suburbs is a good album, not great. That's all.

album's long, the concept is old and tired (haven't we said all we can possibly say about the suburbs already?) and that's that. There's no rule about things over an hour are going to be bad. Fact is, if it's boring at all, at any point, no matter what the total run time is it's "long."

Funeral is a good example of the opposite, it's so good it keeps you wanting more and at 10 tracks it's just right. Keeping people wanting more is much better than dropping a double album on them, like Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness for example.

[yoshinobu's revenge]

I did hear one or two of the AF band members mention that "the b-side" is dead, which makes me wonder if that's why they made such a long album. Those middle-album songs (City with No Children, Suburban War, Wasted Hours, Deep Blue, We Used to Wait) are all decent on their own but would've gotten more acclaim as b-sides.

[Trotskilicious]

i like city with no children, think it's one of the tops but yeah that's the mid-album quintet finsihing with Sprawl I which i just. it's like, having Sprawl II Mountains Beyond Mountains after it makes it #1 must skip.

[Eulogy]

I finally listened to it all the way through, and it's pretty good. Agree with Sprawl II being a highlight, but my two other favorites (as of now) are The Suburbs and Deep Blue.

It is kinda weird that they jacked up the album length so much, but for a lazy Saturday night, I didn't feel like it dragged too much.

[Dogfighter28]

This sure looks exciting for a mediocre mid album song

[Trotskilicious]

ok dude

you're right you win or whatever