Pennies: a formal inquiry - Page 6

FoolofaTook · 11-23-2018, 09:33 AM

thank you. that is exactly how i feel.

Zer0 Hour · 11-23-2018, 10:34 AM

Yeah I really love how the chorus starts out. This part is really strong:

I need a love to help me find my way
I need a strength that I cannot betray
I need a word to say what I can't say

But then I feel like he just kind of ruins it with the generic “I need a lovaaaaahh” part.

reprise85 · 11-23-2018, 10:43 AM

I think it's fragile and vulnerable

Shadaloo · 11-23-2018, 11:03 AM

It's this raw, naked plea. Sometimes simplicity works.

FoolofaTook · 11-23-2018, 11:12 AM

it's a godawful, grating bleat

pavementtune · 05:08 PM

had no idea people like Cherry that much, that went into my "SP 1 songs you never liked" top 5.

I currently hold the old TAFH boxset in my hands and will go on a relistening/ranking journey, I'll keep you all updated if Cherry still makes the bottom 5!

----
groundbreaking update: Cherry isn’t in my bottom 5 any longer, that’s filled with the covers and Rotten Apples.

favorite 5 (not counting the singles)

Mouths of Babes
Pennies
Medellia of the Gray Skies
God
Marquis in Spades

Zer0 Hour · 11-24-2018, 01:16 AM

Wow, Rotten Apples is in your bottom five? I think that song is amazing. That is some vulnerability right there in that song.

houseofglass11 · 11-24-2018, 01:54 AM

Cherry should have been on MCIS, would’ve been good towards the end of disc one. Of course MCIS is still perfect as is.

ilikeplanets · 11-24-2018, 02:02 AM

"stay with me, I'll set you free"

hooked

Mals Marola · 11-24-2018, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zer0 Hour

Wow, Rotten Apples is in your bottom five? I think that song is amazing. That is some vulnerability right there in that song.

truly. thread title should be changed to "bad opinions about TAFH"

Corgan's Bluff · 11-24-2018, 06:25 AM

Too bad that Corgan is now into $...

pavementtune · 11-24-2018, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zer0 Hour

Wow, Rotten Apples is in your bottom five? I think that song is amazing. That is some vulnerability right there in that song.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

truly. thread title should be changed to "bad opinions about TAFH"

fully agree, not nearly enough people had Mouths of Babes in their top 3 songs.

FoolofaTook · 11-24-2018, 09:24 AM

mouths of babez has incredible riffs.

duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuuuuuuh nuh duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh!

fuck yes

Zer0 Hour · 11-24-2018, 09:32 AM

Yeah, Mouths of Babes and Marquis in Spades are two of the best from that era. I think he said that Flood talked him out of including MOB on Mellon Collie and the rest of the band hated MIS. I mean, Mellon Collie is perfect as-is, but still... fuck them all if that’s true because those songs are amazing!

FoolofaTook · 11-24-2018, 09:34 AM

yeah zero ep is the best. like someone said, it's like a mini album full of uber senescent badassery plus pennies such a sweet little tune!

Zer0 Hour · 11-24-2018, 09:40 AM

Yep. I remember Billy saying Pennies was intended as a joke by the band. I was never sure if he meant that the song itself was a joke or that it’s placement on the single was a joke, because you have all of these heavy, dark tracks and then BOOM! Pennies! Such epic placement.

pavementtune · 11-24-2018, 10:05 AM

The Zero EP is one of my most listened to SP releases ever, so I think I was biased from the start when revisiting the old TAFH boxset.

I got the Zero EP right when it came out, but couldn't afford TAFH and only got that as present over 2 years later. Just seeing the back cover gives me all the nostalgic feels.

https://i.imgur.com/jrJqhdH.jpg?1

Yesterday I found a dirt old txt file I had made for Pastichio Medley, the exact time stamps I apparently needed to compile only my favorite bits in a row.
According to that list, my favorite bits were 77, Weeping Willowly and Jackboot.

Seeing that was a mixed experience of thinking "there is so much wrong with me and always was" and suddenly fully understanding why I am still here. There has never been another band for me where I sat down and hit pause every 10 seconds to mark the timestamps of some instrumental doodles.

Mals Marola · 11-24-2018, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavementtune

fully agree, not nearly enough people had Mouths of Babes in their top 3 songs.

Mouths was on my list, which happened to not be ordered, for all you know it could be my #1! (it's not)

redbreegull · 11-24-2018, 03:04 PM

This was much harder than I thought it would be. Zero is the overall strongest and most consistent, but I guess I have a soft spot for Tonight. 6-10 were especially difficult, but I feel pretty confident identifying my top 5.

10. God
9. Rotten Apples
8. Set the Ray to Jerry
7. Medellia of the Gray Skies
6. Ugly

5. Mouths of Babes
4. Jupiter's Lament
3. The Last Song
2. Meladori Magpie
1. TAFH

and a few others it is really difficult for me to not mention: dreaming, tranformer, tonight reprise, marquis, cherry

Zer0 Hour · 11-24-2018, 08:58 PM

Solid list, RBG. Glad to see Jupiter’s Lament get some love. Such a great track. Usually when I play solo acoustic sets, I start out with that song because it’s easy to play and is a good way to stretch out the vocal chords.

redbreegull · 11-24-2018, 09:04 PM

Jupiter's Lament was the first song I ever learned to sing and play simultaneously. It's an all-time favorite for sure

FoolofaTook · 11-24-2018, 09:08 PM

the "why have you left me part" is classic mcis, for shure.

btw anyone who didn't list tafh (the song) in they're top ten is tripping in parallel universes (that shit was clean).

redbreegull · 11-24-2018, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

the "why have you left me part" is classic mcis, for shure.

btw anyone who didn't list tafh (the song) in they're top ten is tripping in parallel universes (that shit was clean).

fuck yeah, that's why I put TAFH as NUMBER ONE. I'm not sure the Pumpkins ever achieved a better heavy guitar tone in the studio

FoolofaTook · 11-24-2018, 09:26 PM

song is pretty DOOM METAL HEAVY

Mals Marola · 11-25-2018, 10:10 AM

s'fuckin' sweet

i love that it's on the 33 single, as well

honestly that ep is such a HANDSOME grab bag of treats it's a wonder it ain't my favorite of the whole box

Zer0 Hour · 11-25-2018, 10:35 AM

Yeah, the 33 single is juicy. My Blue Heaven is such a great cover, and The Last Song is a tearjerker. And Transformer is such a fun track.

FoolofaTook · 11-25-2018, 10:50 AM

it would be juicy if the bells didn't ruin it

FoolofaTook · 11-25-2018, 10:51 AM

here are my tafh rankings:

1. Zer0
2. Tonite
3. 33
4. 1979
5. BWBW

Modern90's · 11-25-2018, 11:17 AM

id say

zero is undoubtably the best of all 5.

after that i guess its all preference because id put:

1.zero
2.1979
3.BWBW
4.33
5.Tonite

FoolofaTook · 11-25-2018, 11:29 AM

tonite last

dude, bro, your tripping.

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11-23-2018, 11:22 AM	#156
pavementtune ************** Location: I'm a quitter. I come from a long line of quitters. It's amazing I'm here at all. Posts: 8,661	had no idea people like Cherry that much, that went into my "SP 1 songs you never liked" top 5. I currently hold the old TAFH boxset in my hands and will go on a relistening/ranking journey, I'll keep you all updated if Cherry still makes the bottom 5! ---- groundbreaking update: Cherry isn’t in my bottom 5 any longer, that’s filled with the covers and Rotten Apples. favorite 5 (not counting the singles) Mouths of Babes Pennies Medellia of the Gray Skies God Marquis in Spades Last edited by pavementtune : 11-23-2018 at 05:08 PM.

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11-23-2018, 09:33 AM	#151
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	thank you. that is exactly how i feel.

11-23-2018, 10:34 AM	#152
Zer0 Hour Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,114	Yeah I really love how the chorus starts out. This part is really strong: I need a love to help me find my way I need a strength that I cannot betray I need a word to say what I can't say But then I feel like he just kind of ruins it with the generic “I need a lovaaaaahh” part.

11-23-2018, 10:43 AM	#153
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	I think it's fragile and vulnerable

11-23-2018, 11:03 AM	#154
Shadaloo Apocalyptic Poster Location: up on the cross you go little fella Posts: 2,676	It's this raw, naked plea. Sometimes simplicity works.

11-23-2018, 11:12 AM	#155
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	it's a godawful, grating bleat

11-24-2018, 01:16 AM	#157
Zer0 Hour Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,114	Wow, Rotten Apples is in your bottom five? I think that song is amazing. That is some vulnerability right there in that song.

11-24-2018, 01:54 AM	#158
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,691	Cherry should have been on MCIS, would’ve been good towards the end of disc one. Of course MCIS is still perfect as is.

11-24-2018, 02:02 AM	#159
ilikeplanets Braindead Location: Ignore List Posts: 17,229	"stay with me, I'll set you free" hooked

11-24-2018, 06:25 AM	#161
Corgan's Bluff Minion of Satan Location: Travelling between Ukraine and Russia Posts: 5,359	Too bad that Corgan is now into $...

11-24-2018, 09:24 AM	#163
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	mouths of babez has incredible riffs. duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuuuuuuh nuh duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh! fuck yes

11-24-2018, 09:32 AM	#164
Zer0 Hour Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,114	Yeah, Mouths of Babes and Marquis in Spades are two of the best from that era. I think he said that Flood talked him out of including MOB on Mellon Collie and the rest of the band hated MIS. I mean, Mellon Collie is perfect as-is, but still... fuck them all if that’s true because those songs are amazing!

11-24-2018, 09:34 AM	#165
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	yeah zero ep is the best. like someone said, it's like a mini album full of uber senescent badassery plus pennies such a sweet little tune!

11-24-2018, 09:40 AM	#166
Zer0 Hour Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,114	Yep. I remember Billy saying Pennies was intended as a joke by the band. I was never sure if he meant that the song itself was a joke or that it’s placement on the single was a joke, because you have all of these heavy, dark tracks and then BOOM! Pennies! Such epic placement.

11-24-2018, 10:05 AM	#167
pavementtune ************** Location: I'm a quitter. I come from a long line of quitters. It's amazing I'm here at all. Posts: 8,661	The Zero EP is one of my most listened to SP releases ever, so I think I was biased from the start when revisiting the old TAFH boxset. I got the Zero EP right when it came out, but couldn't afford TAFH and only got that as present over 2 years later. Just seeing the back cover gives me all the nostalgic feels. https://i.imgur.com/jrJqhdH.jpg?1 Yesterday I found a dirt old txt file I had made for Pastichio Medley, the exact time stamps I apparently needed to compile only my favorite bits in a row. According to that list, my favorite bits were 77, Weeping Willowly and Jackboot. Seeing that was a mixed experience of thinking "there is so much wrong with me and always was" and suddenly fully understanding why I am still here. There has never been another band for me where I sat down and hit pause every 10 seconds to mark the timestamps of some instrumental doodles.

11-24-2018, 03:04 PM	#169
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	This was much harder than I thought it would be. Zero is the overall strongest and most consistent, but I guess I have a soft spot for Tonight. 6-10 were especially difficult, but I feel pretty confident identifying my top 5. 10. God 9. Rotten Apples 8. Set the Ray to Jerry 7. Medellia of the Gray Skies 6. Ugly 5. Mouths of Babes 4. Jupiter's Lament 3. The Last Song 2. Meladori Magpie 1. TAFH and a few others it is really difficult for me to not mention: dreaming, tranformer, tonight reprise, marquis, cherry

11-24-2018, 08:58 PM	#170
Zer0 Hour Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,114	Solid list, RBG. Glad to see Jupiter’s Lament get some love. Such a great track. Usually when I play solo acoustic sets, I start out with that song because it’s easy to play and is a good way to stretch out the vocal chords.

11-24-2018, 09:04 PM	#171
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	Jupiter's Lament was the first song I ever learned to sing and play simultaneously. It's an all-time favorite for sure

11-24-2018, 09:08 PM	#172
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	the "why have you left me part" is classic mcis, for shure. btw anyone who didn't list tafh (the song) in they're top ten is tripping in parallel universes (that shit was clean).

11-24-2018, 09:26 PM	#174
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	song is pretty DOOM METAL HEAVY

11-25-2018, 10:10 AM	#175
Mals Marola Socialphobic Location: Your god damn living room Posts: 10,000	s'fuckin' sweet i love that it's on the 33 single, as well honestly that ep is such a HANDSOME grab bag of treats it's a wonder it ain't my favorite of the whole box

11-25-2018, 10:35 AM	#176
Zer0 Hour Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,114	Yeah, the 33 single is juicy. My Blue Heaven is such a great cover, and The Last Song is a tearjerker. And Transformer is such a fun track.

11-25-2018, 10:50 AM	#177
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	it would be juicy if the bells didn't ruin it

11-25-2018, 10:51 AM	#178
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	here are my tafh rankings: 1. Zer0 2. Tonite 3. 33 4. 1979 5. BWBW

11-25-2018, 11:17 AM	#179
Modern90's Demi-God Location: The Past, Future, and Present Posts: 388	id say zero is undoubtably the best of all 5. after that i guess its all preference because id put: 1.zero 2.1979 3.BWBW 4.33 5.Tonite

11-25-2018, 11:29 AM	#180
FoolofaTook Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Donald Trump of Netphoria Posts: 37,218	tonite last dude, bro, your tripping.