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Old 12-14-2007, 05:58 PM   #121
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thanx a lot

 
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Old 12-14-2007, 06:36 PM   #122
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Old 12-14-2007, 11:24 PM   #123
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woah schuffy how's it hanging
I wanted to acknowledge your earlier post, albeit it belatedly. Sorry for the confusion.

 
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Old 12-16-2007, 11:22 PM   #124
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So um now that my whistle has been wet with these premasters, where can I find the Zeitgeist premasters? I know there was a thread on another board telling about how there are only some tracks available in poorly encoded mp3 format, but I'm not buying it. They're out there.

And are there any other premasters available? How awesome would a Mellon Collie or SD premaster be?!?!?! Do the Gish rough mixes fall into this category too? I have seen them around a bunch but never bothered downloading them...maybe I should. Now my ears understand why Jimmy only listens to the premasters of their albums. They sound awesome, especially the drums.
I think the way to try to find these is to keep talking about it. Ask people if they have any weird copies of Adore or Zeitgeist ("advance" copies, "promos", CD-Rs that friends burned them before the albums came out, etc.) and ask them to rip the discs and upload them so you can check them out. That's how we eventually got this copy of Machina.

(Totally agreed on Sunshowers, btw. This is *the* version.)

 
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Old 12-17-2007, 09:03 AM   #125
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Tracks 4 and 7 (and possibly others as well) seem to be missing maybe the very last 1 or 2 seconds (when compared to the album as commercially released), but these are at the very end of fadeouts, and thus nothing has been done to them.
Did anyone notice that the premasters of TheFutureEmbrace (the bla mp3 leak) also suffers from this missing-the-last-seconds problem? If I remember it correctly, every song is missing about two seconds.
What would have caused this? And how come this is present on both the Machina and TheFutureEmbrace premasters? Coincidence?

Another interesting similarity: nobody seems to know where both premasters come from. They appeared out of nowhere.

Weird shit, I tell ya.

 
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Old 12-17-2007, 10:50 AM   #126
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it's the premaster fairy

 
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Old 12-17-2007, 03:17 PM   #127
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Very constructive this thread...
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Old 12-17-2007, 03:19 PM   #128
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you got these mp3s then, sire?
affirmative.

http://www.mediafire.com/?4bolmdzuzvz

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Old 12-18-2007, 04:55 PM   #129
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I admit I am being a little oblique, and was a little oblique even in this post:

http://hipstersunited.com/blog/archi...eneurship.html
God, look at the promo/official Zeitgeist waveform. Would definitely be interesting to hear the pre-master version of the 'Geist.

 
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:29 PM   #130
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thanks again man. so where did these come from? torrent? posted here? i guess if it was here then the guy hasn't said anything about posting flacs...
you going O2 arena mr cream?
yeah, these were torrented. i think somewhere in the first week of june '05.
and yes, i am going 2 the O arena.

 
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:59 PM   #131
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i wish i understood this, i see how the album is clipped on s&p and aoi but other than that i cant tell much of a difference
the flacs you posted, caic, seem to be identical to my flacs cept for from cuts n such
i thought the premasters were sposed to sound grittier

 
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Old 12-19-2007, 04:26 AM   #132
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my flacs aren't premasters. the only clearly notable differences are in s+p (alternate intro/outro) and age of i (different mix), and in siyl and the second part of glass (no clipping here, unlike the album version).

if you want the premasters of all tracks, download the files that "thank you" posted. i haven't checked them out, but apparently they also contain the different versions of s+p and age of i.

 
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:55 PM   #133
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I'll upload it to my YSI account once it's done downloading... so another download site should be available later this afternoon.

Excited to hear this... geeze, you guys are getting me all fired up on this.

-adam

 
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:55 PM   #134
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i'm halfway through R+S and i haven't noticed any real differences in this or TEG. except i thought i heard a couple cymbal taps or some shit on the TEG outro that can't be heard in the original version. or something. :-/

 
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Old 12-19-2007, 01:03 PM   #135
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ah, dammit. the percussion intro on S+P is awesome, but I think the rest of the song sounds better after mastering. AHHHH.

 
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Old 12-19-2007, 01:06 PM   #136
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...and it's interesting to hear a different version of AoI, but the album version is one of my all-time favorite songs, and I think it's much better in its finished form.

ok i'm done.

 
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Old 12-19-2007, 01:28 PM   #137
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Eulogy, I'm sorry you can't see hear the glory of these...I actually can not believe you can't tell the difference, but whatever.


To everyone else in this thread, there was a great article in this month's Rolling Stone that was EXACTLY about this topic..and they even had side by side images comparing the waveforms (similar to the comparison on the everlasting gaze actually). While SP wasn't specifically cited in the article as having an "overmastered" album, they could have easily been called out on it. Audiofreaks, I command you to go read it and absorb the knowledge.

 
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Old 12-20-2007, 12:31 AM   #138
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Most of the difference you'll hear is in the drums due to compression. Also, the bass is bigger in the mastered versions, which swallows some of the other details (this is due to EQ, not compression). Also, you probably have to listen on speakers that are better than the $20 ones that came with your PC.

Thanks again to everyone for sharing their different versions.

 
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Old 12-20-2007, 02:09 PM   #139
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http://ww.yousendit.com/transfer.php...RndlcExIRGc9PQ

Another non-megaupload link - also, I suppose if you want the Jerry Seinfeld standup set formatted for iPod, there it is. =P

 
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Old 12-20-2007, 05:17 PM   #140
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This is fucking awesome.

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Old 12-20-2007, 11:20 PM   #141
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Thanks guys for all the links. Are the futureembrace premasters worth downloading at all, I hadnt heard of them before.

 
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:58 AM   #142
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Thanks all. I've only been listening to the bla version of TFE without even knowing that they were the premasters. I'm curious now as to the commercial release. Does anyone happen have the Zwan premasters readily available?

 
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Old 12-21-2007, 02:37 AM   #143
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DWI9U7E1

Premasters

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BWYFMSOG
roughmixes

 
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:51 PM   #144
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The link for the roughmixes doesn't work

 
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:54 PM   #145
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Thanks for the Zwan material. I'd been meaning to get these for a while.
And the roughmixes link still works for me. Just checked it out.

 
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Old 12-22-2007, 09:06 PM   #146
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its working. that stuff was upped a while back I wonder when they expire

 
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Old 12-23-2007, 03:00 AM   #147
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The link for the roughmixes doesn't work
it was a temporary problem with megaupload. it's fine now.

 
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:21 AM   #148
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Is there a difference between Raskilnokov's upload and the previous one? They're both labeled as the same file, but I wasn't sure of the file sizes... Didn't want to download both for not... you know.

 
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:18 AM   #149
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thanks future boy!

 
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:53 AM   #150
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So....
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Are the futureembrace premasters worth downloading at all, I hadnt heard of them before.

 
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