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Old 09-06-2017, 11:15 PM   #271
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I just want to arrogantly proclaim that I haven't listened to this.
Yeah right Took. We all know you've been blasting this nonstop

 
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:47 PM   #272
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Yeah right Took. We all know you've been blasting this nonstop
Haven't we all been blasting this nonstop?

 
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Old 09-07-2017, 02:00 AM   #273
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I've been blasting your mother nonstop if you know what I mean.

 
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Old 09-07-2017, 02:01 AM   #274
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Lol sorry couldn't help myself.

 
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Old 09-07-2017, 03:57 AM   #275
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Lol sorry couldn't help myself.
You never can

 
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Old 09-07-2017, 04:43 AM   #276
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When exactly did Billy become all sunshine and rainbows in his lyrical content anyway? Seems like it started with Zwan

'Corgan describes Zwan as "a collective of 5 individual artists creating harmonious music in an unharmonious world." '

 
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Old 09-07-2017, 09:58 AM   #277
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Lol so much for that amirite?

 
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:17 PM   #278
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'Corgan describes Zwan as "a collective of 5 individual artists creating harmonious music in an unharmonious world." '
lol good grief, no wonder so many people hated on Corgan in his prime. Guy just invites it on himself.

 
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:22 PM   #279
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Invited. You were speaking of the past.

JESUS MARY AND JOSEPH.

 
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:54 PM   #280
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Lol no, I'm also referencing the now.

I mean the notoriously pompous Billy Corgan is now declaring that he be called William Patrick Corgan for crying out loud. Only difference is that nobody cares anymore.

 
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:26 AM   #281
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Yeah I was just joking.

Billy is silly. I'd feel bad for his fall from grace if he hadn't landed on Airplane Mode. Now I just hate him, consumed as I am by the twin fires of hate for bElli and lust for Airplane Mode.

 
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Old 09-08-2017, 02:21 AM   #282
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Yeah I was just joking.

Billy is silly. I'd feel bad for his fall from grace if he hadn't landed on Airplane Mode. Now I just hate him, consumed as I am by the twin fires of hate for bElli and lust for Airplane Mode.
Airplane Mode Flies High?

 
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:57 PM   #283
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ok this song is not great but after however long it's been i'm gonna just come out and say it... i like it. well i like the verses, mostly. it's definitely better than monuments

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 12:11 AM   #284
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ok this song is not great but after however long it's been i'm gonna just come out and say it... i like it.
I love how you're basically trying to torture yourself into thinking that you like this song. God bless you child.

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it's definitely better than monuments
The last dump I took was better than Monuments, so comparing something to that album isn't saying much.

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 12:15 AM   #285
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I love how you're basically trying to torture yourself into thinking that you like this song. God bless you child.
Maybe, but I don't think so. I rag on his stuff just as much as the next netphorian. It just feels like he gives half a shit in this song I think. That's a low bar, yeah, but one he hasn't met for a while

For the record I'm not like listening to it over and over or anything. But once in awhile when this thread is bumped or whatever I'll listen again

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:07 AM   #286
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It just feels like he gives half a shit in this song I think. That's a low bar, yeah, but one he hasn't met for a while
it's "song for a son" minus half of the half he put into that one.

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:10 AM   #287
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just realized that i still like being beige

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 04:42 AM   #289
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Further update:

Figured out that the chorus sounds like Desire.
Like the instrumentation, reminds me of the Zwan hideout shows.
It's an ok song, that "lovers" line is lazy and shit.

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 07:51 AM   #290
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Ur mom gives me a woody

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:06 AM   #291
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Ur mom gives me a woody
And I gave ur mom my woody.

circle of life.

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:13 PM   #292
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ok this song is not great but after however long it's been i'm gonna just come out and say it... i like it. well i like the verses, mostly. it's definitely better than monuments
No way. This song is preachy bullshit.

I actually don't get all the hate regarding Monuments. I mean it was nothing special, but it was the best release since Zeitgeist. Definitely a treat to listen to after all the disposable Teargarden crud.

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:54 PM   #293
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No way. This song is preachy bullshit.

I actually don't get all the hate regarding Monuments. I mean it was nothing special, but it was the best release since Zeitgeist. Definitely a treat to listen to after all the disposable Teargarden crud.
"best release since Zeitgeist" is such an incredibly low bar

It's true it is better than the really bad 2009/2010 era Teargarden stuff, but other than that it's the worst collection of material Corgan has ever released

 
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:54 PM   #294
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although I doubt not that Ogilala will soon outpace it

 
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:10 AM   #295
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If I can be honest, the chord structure and vocal melody of Aeronaut is classic Billy.

Seriously, I don't think this has ever changed. The only thing that has changed (and horribly so) are the lyrics, vocal performance, instruments used, and horrible mix. Otherwise, this really doesn't sound too detached from, say, Disarm.

That's not to say the "horrible" things don't kill the song, they certainly do.

 
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Old 09-15-2017, 11:06 PM   #296
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There's just no meat and potatoes to Billy's music anymore. Even if you think Aeronaut has the potential as a cool idea, it really just sounds like a demo.

I get that sometimes the minimalist approach has worked for Billy, but it's really become the norm now. Even a song like One and All which I like doesn't really have anything to sink your teeth into.

I think that's where Iha came into importance. Sure, he didn't write the songs, but he helped add the "nuts and sprinkles" on top for lack of a better metaphor. haha

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Old 09-15-2017, 11:10 PM   #297
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At this point I don't know why Billy doesn't hook up with Butch Vig again. A new album with Jimmy on drums and produced by Butch Vig would undoubtedly create a lot of hype and draw a lot of attention to the album... Something that Billy hasn't been able to muster up since Zeitgeist. And really, the production has been one of the main issues hampering his material, so why not pair up with the guy who was able to work wonders with him?

 
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Old 09-15-2017, 11:12 PM   #298
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You have to wonder what kinda people Billy has managing him these days. This shit isn't rocket science but they keep on floundering around, unable to create much public interest in any of the new material.

Though washed up, he's still a house-hold name for crying out loud. The lack of success he's had with attaining any semblance of relevancy really is a lack of direction from useless management as much as it is Billys declining output.

 
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Old 09-16-2017, 11:45 AM   #299
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Yeah, there's more repetition now than there used to be as well.

Also, you have to ask if Butch Vig would be "up" to working with Billy again.

 
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the best thing about early pumpkins is that some songs would just keep going in different directions and not repeat stuff (or only repeat twice)

ruby, for example

 
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