A thread for Stone Temple Pilots why not

[FlamingGlobes]

Originally Posted by ButtHash

Yeah Tiny Music is dank as shit.

I bought Core at a thrift store because I sort of liked "Creep" even though I found it kinda dumb.
I heard the first minute of "Dead and Bloated" and cracked up and wrote them off.
But they're good solid rock and rollers. Good at what they did. Still don't like Core much doh.

Creep is probably my least favorite STP song. Even 20+ years later, I just can't get on board with that song. It's the only song of theirs that truly feels derivative to me.

[FlamingGlobes]

I. Am. Smelling like a rose. That somebody gave me. On my birthday. Death bed.

Repeat.

[ButtHash]

Even still " I am trampled under sole of another man's shoes. Guess I walked too softly." is kinda dope.

[Mals Marola]

Originally Posted by crabshack

Mals left me neg rep for this comment so it must of hit home for him.

He must rely on the opinions of others to shape his beliefs. That's the only explanation I can think of.

i literally explained on the last page what i negged you for. nowhere in my post did i talk about "what other people said," it was purely based on the Core and i guess a couple of Purple-era singles i had heard that sounded really derivative to me. on Tiny Music he pretty much dropped the "Vedder voice" entirely which is part of why i liked it so much

that & the embracing of different styles. imma listen to Purple & No 4 soon enough

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by FlamingGlobes

Creep is probably my least favorite STP song. Even 20+ years later, I just can't get on board with that song. It's the only song of theirs that truly feels derivative to me.

Really? It's always been one of my favorites.

[Mals Marola]

Plush is a lot more derivative to me than Creep

like the former pretty much sounds like a straight-up Pearl Jam song to me whereas Creep is more a combo of Alice in Chains & Nirvana, with a little bit of something else thrown in there as well

[crabshack]

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

Plush is a lot more derivative to me than Creep

like the former pretty much sounds like a straight-up Pearl Jam song to me whereas Creep is more a combo of Alice in Chains & Nirvana, with a little bit of something else thrown in there as well

D-

Please cite specific examples

[LaBelle]

So if I was to get just one Stone Temple Pilots which one should it be?

[fuzzyroes]

Purple

[FlamingGlobes]

Purple is the best of both worlds. Core is a good intro and Tiny Music is for the more "advanced." No. 4 and Shangri-Blah-Blah-Blah are also pretty great.

[crabshack]

love this song to death

[crabshack]

I know a lot of guys who still rock the Scott Weiland/Layne Staley look. It makes me uncomfortable.

[Mals Marola]

Originally Posted by crabshack

D-

Please cite specific examples

uh, well the first one sounds like a Pearl Jam song and the first time i heard the second i thought it was some non-album Nirvana i'd never heard before

now how about you "pack it up" already

[crabshack]

only album of theirs i've ever heard but it's pretty far from the "grunge by the numbers" shit i'd always pegged them for

[crabshack]

*hears a piano*

"WHAT IS THIS BEETHOVEN???!!!"

[Mals Marola]

uh

some of the earlier stuff sounds like Pearl Jam

that's hardly a revelatory statement

[Mals Marola]

are you a DeLeo or something

[crabshack]

No, I'm Joe Perry.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...d78b9f9f20.jpg

[fuzzyroes]

Anyone remember when STP was trying to weiner in on the Nu-Metal crowd and played on Limp Bizkits Family Values Tour?

I like STP but they never really seemed comfortable in just honing in on what they were. They seemed to be pivoting all of the time.

[Elphenor]

They are no worse than Nirvana or PJ or Green Day or any of the 90's arena bands take that to mean what you want

[fuzzyroes]

They were kinda trend hoppers in much the same way Corgan was.

It's liked they jumped on the grunge bandwagon hoping to make it big and it was a huge success but then they were like "ahh shit! some people are making fun of us, okay here's Lady Picture Show guys!" and then when their star started to fade they desperately tour with Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park and Static X in a last gasp of relevancy.

That's one thing I do respect about Pearl Jam. They just did their thing and didn't pay any mind to the changing trends

[Elphenor]

Mals is a hypocrite who threw a big ole sissy baby hissy fit over me calling Britpop like Oasis derritive

I don't want to hate on the guy but c'mon

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

They are no worse than Nirvana or PJ or Green Day or any of the 90's arena bands take that to mean what you want

I do like STP so I don't wanna sound like I'm shitting on em, but yes: they are worse than Nirvana PJ and Green Day.

Nirvana clearly wipes the floor with STP and while I like the best STP songs over the best Pearl Jam: it was clear that they were aping the sound of what was going on at the time and that ruins some of the credibility. And Green Day came along organically which holds weight. They came along doing something totally different when Grunge was dominating the airwaves.

[Mals Marola]

pearl jam stuck their heads in the sand and deemed themselves "too holy" for mainstream coverage & music videos and STP evolved and came into their own as a much more individual band, there's a big difference between that and "chasing trends"

i don't really see Corgan as a trend-hopper either (at least before sp2)

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Mals is a hypocrite who threw a big ole sissy baby hissy fit over me calling Britpop like Oasis derritive

I don't want to hate on the guy but c'mon

Heh I gotta agree with you here. I tend to agree with you on your Oasis analysis.

[Mals Marola]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Mals is a hypocrite who threw a big ole sissy baby hissy fit over me calling Britpop like Oasis derritive

I don't want to hate on the guy but c'mon

when in the fuck did i argue Oasis not being derivative lol

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

pearl jam stuck their heads in the sand and deemed themselves "too holy" for mainstream coverage & music videos and STP evolved and came into their own as a much more individual band, there's a big difference between that and "chasing trends"

i don't really see Corgan as a trend-hopper either (at least before sp2)

Oh come on man. STP didn't "evolve" they merely pivoted cause they were looked upon as a laughing stock to anyone in the music critic/media world. They were always just reactionary to the criticism directed at them. Like when everyone criticized Sex-Type Thing for being misogynistic Weiland tried to deflect the negative press by wearing a dress while performing the song during broadcasted performances.

[Mals Marola]

furthermore, even if i had said something was underivative, it's not like that "disbars" me from ever thinking any other band is

this is all very weird in a thread where i'm saying i liked an STP album, anyway

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

I do like STP so I don't wanna sound like I'm shitting on em, but yes: they are worse than Nirvana PJ and Green Day.

Nirvana clearly wipes the floor with STP and while I like the best STP songs over the best Pearl Jam: it was clear that they were aping the sound of what was going on at the time and that ruins some of the credibility. And Green Day came along organically which holds weight. They came along doing something totally different when Grunge was dominating the airwaves.

So much lol at all of this

[Elphenor]

STOP EATING THE MTV NARRATIVE IT'S 2016

These are not original bands