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Old 08-21-2018, 02:13 AM   #541
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Old 08-21-2018, 02:17 AM   #542
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He's getting more testy as this goes on.



 
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Old 08-21-2018, 03:22 AM   #543
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Exactly. The voice question really gets his goat. And it's pretty obvious that it does matter, to his fans and people who like his music.

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 03:29 AM   #544
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He's full of shit, he can't sing like that anymore. His voice has changed.

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:26 AM   #545
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but does he use his thumb for the octave riff for cherub rock?

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 08:22 AM   #546
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Pretty sure he can still sing like that, but he thinks he sings better now.

#nerdalert #sad! #fakenews

What a ‘dickhead’.

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 08:49 AM   #547
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Fuck you Billy.

We all know you can’t sing like that any more.

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:18 AM   #548
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Exactly. The voice question really gets his goat. And it's pretty obvious that it does matter, to his fans and people who like his music.
True that.
He is such a dick to some fans.
I do not believe any answer he gives.
What a cynic prick

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:23 AM   #549
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please mind your language thank you

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:26 AM   #550
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Speaking of his voice. He said he thinks that "Wound" is the most underappreciated song of the Machina era. Well, Billy, I know that I for one would have appreciated that song more if your vocal performance didn't remind me of the sound an infant makes when it's being stabbed to death.

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:55 AM   #551
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Speaking of his voice. He said he thinks that "Wound" is the most underappreciated song of the Machina era. Well, Billy, I know that I for one would have appreciated that song more if your vocal performance didn't remind me of the sound an infant makes when it's being stabbed to death.
ha... so true... i thought exact same thing.

looking back Machina singing had some real red flags of what was to come.

Can't believe a singer would say why the fck does it matter how i sing!

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:08 AM   #552
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I mean honestly, gut reaction is "boy that got him" but I imagine getting asked why you don't do things like you did 20 years ago on a regular basis is a pretty valid "trigger" for anyone

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:14 AM   #553
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Well he's never said it. He's never said "I know I sing differently now, and the reason is X".

It's been different, markedly, since Zwan. Even comparing Zwan to Machina II, what, three years apart? The difference in how he sang and how his voice was produced is huge. And, a few exceptions aside, he hasn't gone back to his old way of singing.

The key to this is understanding what caused him to change between 2000 - 2003.

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:23 AM   #554
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The key to this is understanding what caused him to change between 2000 - 2003.
He was trying to recapture his popularity and be a pop singer like Bono, he thought singing tuition would make his voice sound better?

Once he learned the new techniques he felt his vocals were better regardless of what the old SP fans thought. So pride, arrogance and stubbornness, at a guess.

If he was damaging his vocal cords the old way he could tell us that and we’d all lay off him a little.
Having said that he sounded great on the 2007 tour but like shit on the ZG record, so I sway towards it being an artistic choice.

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:27 AM   #555
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The seeds for the big "pro singer" vocal technique changes and whatnot were planted during the Adore era tho, weren't they? Guess they didn't quite take over until after the break-up of SP 1, but yeah. I always figured "finding God" had something to do with it as well. You're just not going to sing a song like Zero the same way as a practicing Christian

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:32 AM   #556
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After this Q&A we should rebrand the site #nerdphoria

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 11:35 AM   #557
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but does he use his thumb for the octave riff for cherub rock?
pretty sure he does. It doesn't sound right with an open E ringing through it

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 12:47 PM   #558
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Old 08-21-2018, 12:54 PM   #559
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To be fair with his singing, he can hit notes way more successfully now than the early 90s - case in point, all those performances of Mayo where he can’t get to the higher notes at the end at all and his voice cracks up. The trade of for this is the awful vibrato etc that’s definitely a “learnt” thing he thinks sounds good.

The lack of screaming is a bit of a bummer for this tour, I hope it’s not permenant and is more to do with playing 3hrs a night and not wanting to burn his voice out.

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 01:08 PM   #560
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There’s zero chance Corgan can do that dreamy nasal tone in 2018.

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 01:16 PM   #561
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who gives a fuck

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 01:28 PM   #562
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Old 08-21-2018, 01:31 PM   #563
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Nooooooooooooooo!









 
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Old 08-21-2018, 01:34 PM   #564
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Nooooooooooooooo!
The naked guy would’ve battered Billy and his guitar.

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 01:45 PM   #565
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There's a reason they won't play some of the heavier songs... he can still shred though so who cares...

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 01:52 PM   #566
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ha... so true... i thought exact same thing.

looking back Machina singing had some real red flags of what was to come.

Can't believe a singer would say why the fck does it matter how i sing!
Glad I'm not alone in thinking this. I see praise for that song sometimes and I think it might actually have been a decent track if Billy didn't sound all "THHHHHAAAAAAA YOU WAAAAAAA AAAASS YOUU ALWAAAAYS WAAAAAAAAA!"

 
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Old 08-21-2018, 02:11 PM   #568
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lol your voice sucks now billy

 
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HAHA he literally can’t stomach having 100’s of fans over 1000’s, it’s obvious.

His voice is fine on Ogilala. But telling 90’s fans to get over it whilst parading around 90’s material...

 
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