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Old 11-21-2019, 09:59 PM   #1
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Red face Cotillions Thread





This thread belongs to bright_doom, not me!

Last edited by Corgan's Bluff : 11-23-2019 at 09:41 PM. Reason: -> We understand your enthusiasm! As part of becoming old nerds...

 
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Old 11-21-2019, 10:03 PM   #2
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There is a fair amount of really, really great stuff on this.

At like 17 songs it's much less cohesive than Ogilala but fuck me if most of the material isn't stronger

That title track

 
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Old 11-21-2019, 11:42 PM   #3
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Sounds fresh, inspired with a nice touch of classic corgan.

 
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Old 11-21-2019, 11:44 PM   #4
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Whoa, Billy! Whoa!

 
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Old 11-21-2019, 11:48 PM   #5
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Billy does a better job at producing than Rick Rubin. Makes me look forward to new SP big time.

 
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Old 11-21-2019, 11:59 PM   #6
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The instrumentation on coliseum is faaackin gorgeous.

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 12:11 AM   #7
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oh it's on spotify now.. what time did it go up?

i'm listening to frightened rabbit at the moment, but once this album is over i'll switch over

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 12:20 AM   #8
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can I get a dl link

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 12:46 AM   #9
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Howís the dropped consonants and vibrato???

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:05 AM   #10
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How’s the dropped consonants and vibrato???
not too much vibrato, the dropped consonants are still annoying enough.

somehow the music is suddenly a lot better than the past few albums so that's a minor thing.

I'm surprised that it is and it's a pleasant surprise, still I can't see myself listening much to a Billy Corgan album in this day and age.

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:21 AM   #11
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Is this streaming somewhere or are you guys coughing up $$$?

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 03:37 AM   #12
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Is this streaming somewhere or are you guys coughing up $$$?
it's up on all the mp3 sites, Soulseek (peer to peer), and torrent sites.

 
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:39 AM   #13
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How’s the dropped consonants and vibrato???
vocals are pretty shite tbh

but my first impression is that its musically a lot more like OG Pumpkins in its instrumental subtlety and dreaminess

like hard times immediately called Medalori Magpie to mind

 
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Old 11-23-2019, 06:52 AM   #14
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vocals are pretty shite tbh

but my first impression is that its musically a lot more like OG Pumpkins in its instrumental subtlety and dreaminess

like hard times immediately called Medalori Magpie to mind
that's cause the chord progression is a little too similar

and yes, I take back what I said about the vocals. can't bear to listen to the whole thing because of them. the dropped consonants are everywhere (OUUU AND MEEE)

and like someone already said, this wouldn't be a problem if they weren't so high in the mix. he keeps doing it.

don't think I'll listen to it again

 
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Old 11-23-2019, 07:10 AM   #15
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that's cause the chord progression is a little too similar

and yes, I take back what I said about the vocals. can't bear to listen to the whole thing because of them. the dropped consonants are everywhere (OUUU AND MEEE)

and like someone already said, this wouldn't be a problem if they weren't so high in the mix. he keeps doing it.

don't think I'll listen to it again

It seems to me that if Mellon Collie was coming out today, you would still pick up on something and find something you'd dislike, so that you could have an excuse to never listen to it again. Am I right?

 
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:02 AM   #16
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Yeah this is all so mediocre, there is 1 good song the title track perhaps. Ogilala way better. Look forward to the next TSP..

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 01:04 AM   #17
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Wtf, someone starts a new Cotillions thread and locks my original thread without even asking me?

Fuck this place, I'm going to Shad0wland.

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 07:23 AM   #18
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Wtf, someone starts a new Cotillions thread and locks my original thread without even asking me?
and to top it off they spelled the album name wrong as well lol

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 10:17 AM   #19
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Wtf, someone starts a new Cotillions thread and locks my original thread without even asking me?

Fuck this place, I'm going to Shad0wland.
just to keep things neat since the album as now come out!

 
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Old 11-23-2019, 02:44 AM   #20
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Wtf, someone starts a new Cotillions thread and locks my original thread without even asking me?

Fuck this place, I'm going to Shad0wland.
I was shocked too having been chosen to start a new thread I didn't want to do.

Was it for some later advises, how to get a free copy, to stop the thread...?

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 01:41 AM   #21
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This album sounds like diarrhea.

But you already knew it.

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 01:49 AM   #22
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Why was the other thread locked?

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 01:52 AM   #23
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it's cool to hear D'arcy did the backup vocals.

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 02:02 AM   #24
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Loving this album. First listen I thought it was a bit too long and monotonous, but it gets better once your familiar with the songs. Great work with the back vocals.

6 + 7, The spark, Cotillions, Apologia, Neptulius and Anon are my favourites.

 
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it’s on spotify

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 07:44 AM   #28
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I don't like it at all...

 
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Old 11-22-2019, 08:08 AM   #29
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It's generally not my cup of tea, but I still appreciate the quality of the songwriting and the instrumentation. It's definitely passed all expectations.

I think that 30 day trip around the heartland was just what he needed to spark some inspiration

 
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It's generally not my cup of tea, but I still appreciate the quality of the songwriting and the instrumentation. It's definitely passed all expectations.

I think that 30 day trip around the heartland was just what he needed to spark some inspiration
I'd agree with this, and I think it was your comment in the old thread that a little more percussion would have helped a few of the songs.

There's too many songs and some of them drag on, but it is far and away better than Ogillala, which I thought was terrible.

The first couple of tracks are honestly pretty bad and I was discouraged, but when Jubilee hits, the energy picks up a bit.

Part of the problem for me is that both his guitar strumming and his piano chording are pretty boring. It's what really killed Ogilala and the added instrumentation help for sure.

Strongest lyrics in a long, long time as well. The singing I'm just not a fan of his modern style, and the dropped consonants are all over the place.

tl;dr: it's pretty decent, which is far better than I expected.

 
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