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Old 12-06-2018, 02:36 PM   #31
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I don't understand why they wouldn't just do what Corgan already did on his solo tours, where he simply played songs of all outlets, including Zwan, which was quite lovely.
Tour as SP like they will do either way, play like 3 Zwan songs, done.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:36 PM   #32
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Was it? The story I know is that Pajo was having an affair with Bjorn's wife.
Maybe that's it, but I remember the quote as 'band members performing sex acts in public' so I'be thought it was Paz giving Pajo a jack handy or something. Could be wrong.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:45 PM   #33
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Anyway, what the fuck happened to Bjorn? He was around since... Adore?

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:50 PM   #34
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Billy putting his hand on Paz Lenchantin, in not one, but two pictures, disturbs me. You didn't see the 10,000 maniacs putting their paws all over Natalie Merchant. If Paz wanted to allege work place harassment, she'd have exhibits A and B lined up.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:57 PM   #35
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Maybe cause it wasn't.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 03:07 PM   #36
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Where did he put his hand? If it wasn't on her tits or ass I'd be disappointed.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 03:09 PM   #37
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He put his hands up in the air
Put his hands up
In the air

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 03:10 PM   #38
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No he put them up her skirt. Hell, I would.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 03:17 PM   #39
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Crap, I had completely forgotten this video existed. At first I thought this gif was from was Tarantula.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 03:45 PM   #40
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I'm imagining the level of vitriol Billy would reach in the liner notes for a MSOTS reissue and it's fucking amazing to think about

Jesus, I
- from our slightly infamous MSTOS session. we were 2 hours late due to Pajo plowing Paz in the back of the tour bus. That was no surprise though; I was treated so poorly by this idiot who used to be the guitarist from Pollution Unknown and that is why Zwan is probably #1 on my all time worst experiences list. this song was originally written by Henry Francis Lyte roughly around the time that William Lamb succeeded Earl Grey as Prime Minister of the UK and became.. well, you catch my drift. this still sounds powerful to my jaded ears, I mean we meant it back then, but that was long ago. but that was long a go-go, so now hear is the view, I cast about, I'm leaving no room for you to get out, so we only ended up recording 3 songs that day (Endless Summer and Desire too) because it was so uptight, but I'm glad we did tolerate that Solution Unboned that day even though I don't think we would now. I still like Paz but never trust a girl who ends up with well i can't say. No, fuck that it's Pajo. Piece of shit. i am very proud of all these songs because they have persevered time and space and albums and most of all subjective opinion but I'm glad the album didn't sell cuz then I woulda been stuck with these assholes forever.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 04:29 PM   #41
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A+, Zero Hour. A+

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 04:48 PM   #42
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Thanks, bud!

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:02 PM   #43
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Basically Billy was in love with Paz and she banged Pajo and Sweeney and he lost his shit and blew up the band.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:17 PM   #44
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Billy putting his hand on Paz Lenchantin, in not one, but two pictures, disturbs me. You didn't see the 10,000 maniacs putting their paws all over Natalie Merchant. If Paz wanted to allege work place harassment, she'd have exhibits A and B lined up.
Looked indeed weird, especially with the smugly surprised gesture of Paz...






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Old 12-06-2018, 05:20 PM   #45
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Raise your hand if you thought Zwan could eventually be even doper than Pumpkins

Gosh i was fucken bummed when crybaby bill took his dry peen and went home

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:24 PM   #46
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The level of effort going into looking like theyr're all happy in the Honestly and Lyric videos is so incredibly cringey.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:26 PM   #47
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Hand raised. Was a hopeful time.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:35 PM   #48
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The interview statements of each band member looked agonized.

Paz decided only to speak in Spanish, maybe to make it easier for her...


 
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:56 PM   #49
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I mostly remember just really wanting Billy's Ganesha sweater

If that came with the supermegadeluxe championship edition Zwan reissue I would pay up in a heartbeat

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:58 PM   #50
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Jimmy putting his hand on Matt Sweeney, in not one, but two pictures, disturbs me. You didn't see the Smashing Pumpkins putting their paws all over James Iha. If Matt wanted to allege work place harassment, he'd have exhibits A and B lined up.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:05 PM   #51
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Jimmy putting his hand on Matt Sweeney, in not one, but two pictures, disturbs me. You didn't see the Smashing Pumpkins putting their paws all over James Iha. If Matt wanted to allege work place harassment, he'd have exhibits A and B lined up.
It's a little more intimate, to put hands on the belly, like Billy does here again on the one of Paz, than on the shoulders...

Happier Birthday, BjŲrn:


 
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:29 PM   #52
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Raise your hand if you thought Zwan could eventually be even doper than Pumpkins

Gosh i was fucken bummed when crybaby bill took his dry peen and went home
Maybe if Billy wasn't so insistent on injecting his early 00s brand of Christian Rock into 90% of shit they actually recorded. Band itself had huuuge potential

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:42 PM   #53
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Sweeney seems like a chill dude, the 'guitar moves' interviews on youtube are amazing. Pajo has been through some stuff. Paz is now in the Pixies.

Passing ships.

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:12 PM   #55
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Sweeney seems like a chill dude, the 'guitar moves' interviews on youtube are amazing. Pajo has been through some stuff. Paz is now in the Pixies.

Passing ships.
thx for mentioning this - looked it up & am watchin' the whole series now, starting from the J Mascis ep

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:02 PM   #56
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Paz does a decent Kim Deal

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:04 PM   #57
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I will masturbate to studio Chrysanthemum 37 times

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:52 PM   #58
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Jimmy putting his hand on Matt Sweeney, in not one, but two pictures, disturbs me. You didn't see the Smashing Pumpkins putting their paws all over James Iha. If Matt wanted to allege work place harassment, he'd have exhibits A and B lined up.
I think it was just to indicate they were all friends

PS Can someone with Instagram ask Sweeney if he's involved or even knows about Billy's plans to tour Zwan?

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:06 PM   #59
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Bill is the king of the NDA, you really think Sweeney would spill the beans?

 
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:35 PM   #60
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Wow, never thought I'd see the day when a Zwan reunion would be touted.

I revisited Zwan recently and man, there's some SHITTY songs on that album. This sounds like something a group of 15 year olds at a Christian band-camp would pen


 
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