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View Poll Results: Low point of SAOSBV1LPNPNFNS?
Knights of Malta 14 22.58%
Silvery Sometimes 1 1.61%
Travels 8 12.90%
Solara 6 9.68%
Alienation 25 40.32%
Marchin' On 0 0%
With Sympathy 1 1.61%
Seek and You Shall Destroy 7 11.29%
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:15 PM   #31
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No. Noooooo no no no nooooo

If anyone really believes Widow Wake My Mind is less offensive than...well, anything, they need to go and relisten to it again. And again. And again. Clearly it's been too long.

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:11 PM   #32
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y'all still just traumatized by them mormites

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:24 PM   #33
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Holy shit Widow is better than KoM....

Consider the fact, that Widow would be an improvement in the one spot. Jesus Christ.

1. "Widow Wake My Mind"
2. "Silvery Sometimes (Ghosts)"
3. "Travels"
4. "Solara"
5. "Alienation"
6. "Marchin' On"
7. "With Sympathy"
8. "Seek and You Shall Destroy"
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No. Noooooo no no no nooooo

If anyone really believes Widow Wake My Mind is less offensive than...well, anything, they need to go and relisten to it again. And again. And again. Clearly it's been too long.
LOL, to be fair, it's honestly been so long since I listed to Widow Wanker that I can't even remember how it goes anymore. I just know that I fucking hated it and thinking it probably the worst thing I'd ever heard Corgan do, at least back then. KOM is at least in the same ballpark of awful that Widow hails from. I really tried to give it a fair shake but it got worse the more times I tried listening to it. It's fucking garbage.

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:30 PM   #34
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Do it I dare you

You will a least come back appreciating KOM's bassline, or the little backwards guitar solo, or something

I'm forgiving of a lot of Bill's late-period stuff and I perhaps try harder than I should to find things to enjoy about everything, but that is one instance where I absolutely cannot find something positive at all: the only time I really and honestly feel embarrassed listening to BC.

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:45 PM   #35
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No. Noooooo no no no nooooo

If anyone really believes Widow Wake My Mind is less offensive than...well, anything, they need to go and relisten to it again. And again. And again. Clearly it's been too long.
Some of us are lookin' for a love, a love that SHYIIIINNNNEssss, others are gonna ride the rainbow, I guess.

Widow also ties in the "shiny" theme with that EPIC chorus. Widow > KoM sorry fam.

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:48 PM   #36
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oh

oh oh

oh

oh oh

oh oh oh

oh oh

oh oh oh oh


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Old 11-28-2018, 01:53 PM   #37
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This is really what we should've gotten, in complete made-up ideal world:

1. Hieroglyphic (kicks off with a Cherub-esque drum roll, a groove based song and a killer opener)
2. Marchiní On
3. Silvery Sometimes
4. Blurred (soft dreamy acoustic-based song like Whir)
5. Travels
6. Verla (7 minute epic, hints of Porcelina and end of Soma, amazing JC drums)
7. Solara
8. Seek and You Shall Destroy
9. Plunge (a James Iha rocker, with Iha on vocals)
10. With Sympathy
11. Knights of Malta
12. Oh So Bright (instrumental, akin to Mellon Collie but full band)
wait you want more of this shit?

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:04 PM   #38
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Alienation is growing. Chorus is shitty though.
Best part is around 3:50.
Seek is worst.
Reminds me of monuments( song and productionwise). Melody is so crappy and seek embodies all elements that i dont like about sp 2.0. Dry production, metallic guitar effect, voice tone incredibly annoying, shitty melody and embarrassing chorus.
I dont give a shit about his lyrics anyway, cause i dont understand them and cannot connect to his stupid metaphors( even americans or people from england find it hard or impossible to find out the meaning of his lyrics.

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:09 PM   #39
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Do it I dare you

You will a least come back appreciating KOM's bassline, or the little backwards guitar solo, or something

I'm forgiving of a lot of Bill's late-period stuff and I perhaps try harder than I should to find things to enjoy about everything, but that is one instance where I absolutely cannot find something positive at all: the only time I really and honestly feel embarrassed listening to BC.
Thats the main problem: fans desperately try to find something in each song that they could/ can like about sp 2.0.

Either you like it or not. In shiny theres not much to find that can grow on you.

There is zero hope that billy is going to change production or vocal style. So shiny 2.0 is going to be(sound) similar imo

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:12 PM   #40
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Either you like it or not. In shiny theres not much to find that can grow on you.
Wait what, it grew on you. You didn't like it at first and now you do. That's what 'growing on you' means.

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 04:34 PM   #41
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"Alienation is growing"

"Either you like it or not. There's nothing to grow on you"

-Brothelhi4L

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 04:39 PM   #42
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Alienation dropped for me. I actually think it's worse than Seek now, mostly because of how annoying and ear-wormy it is. Like I'm trying to do my fucking job and all that's playing in my head over and over is "via an old archaic slingshot"

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 04:39 PM   #43
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I can't believe people think Knights is worse than Solara though. Solara FUCKING SUCKS.

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 05:03 PM   #44
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Solara is boring as shit for sure

Silvery too

Knights of Malta was kind of fun

I'm not listening to the rest of this album

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 05:04 PM   #45
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I can't believe people think Knights is worse than Solara though. Solara FUCKING SUCKS.
It is a TIGHT race to the bottom. I think this album would be the worst one if wasn't for Shittery Sometimes, which is at least just not-good instead of "oh my god my friend's can't know I am listening to this".

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 05:12 PM   #46
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I voted for Seek/Shall. I like Knights of Malta a lot.

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 05:49 PM   #47
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lol
great, now this will be in my head all day

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 05:49 PM   #48
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spangled and WWMM are probably the absolute bottom of the barrel

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:31 PM   #49
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those aren't even the worst of the 'garden, imo

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:31 PM   #50
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& yeah voting Malta as worst is kinda baffling to me

some of y'all lettin' those WOAs a little to far up yer anuses

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:47 PM   #51
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Netphoria seems to have the bottom three right on. Knights of Malta is the worst, followed by Seek. Alienation isn't far behind (particularly the chorus). I enjoy the rest of the album.

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:03 PM   #52
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Consequence of Sound just put Billy on blast. SP camp is pissed 4 sure

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:43 PM   #53
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I feel like people voting for Malta are not actually hearing most of the song because of the woahs. It's not even among the worse 50% of the songs on this LP. Travels is way more boring, Alienation is worse, Seek is way worse, and Solara is seriously absolutely fucking awful.

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:45 PM   #54
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and who tf voted for meadow goats as the worst one? what is wrong with you people?

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:47 PM   #55
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we're in the meadow
we're in the meadow
TROLLS

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:47 PM   #56
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Old 11-28-2018, 09:45 PM   #57
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Guys please donít forget how terrible Solara is.

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:14 PM   #58
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we're in the meadow
we're in the meadow
TROLLS
The song came on shuffle today while I was on a walk and I didn't really get the meadow goats joke before, mostly because it's a song I don't listen to much, but once the chorus hit I actually started chuckling to my self and probably looked like a madman to the other pedestrians.

I can't unhear it now!

 
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:51 PM   #59
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Yeah, I purposely did not make this one multiple choice or ******* a "they all blow" option because I think it's a matter of really figuring out which one is the absolute crappiest.

I had assumed of the 8 songs that we would have true variety. A James song would have been awesome. How that did not happen is beyond me. But instead, we got an album that has Silvery - which makes my list of "Top 5 best songs WPC has penned from Zeitgeist - current" list, Marchin' On which is pretty rad and somehow has solid vocals - With Sympathy, which is the closest thing we get to actual moodiness/more mellow on the album - KOM for all it's weirdness/divisiveness - and FOUR songs that sound like something that could have easily come off of Zeitgeist (solara), Oceania (travels) or Monuments (seek, alienation).

Which, while not fully shocking, is a bummer still.

In other news - does anybody have a set of .wav files of the album that they would be willing to ship me? The completist in me has to have it all, but doesn't want to buy the CD for one rip when I (again, see: completist) bought the vinyl.

 
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