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Old 08-16-2018, 02:10 PM   #61
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I've asked him if M2 was supposed to sound that dirty or is it due to the vinyl transfer we got.
+ if there are more GATMOG remixes and if they will be part of the reissue.
It's clearly mixed to sound like that and has fuck all to do with the medium.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:12 PM   #62
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Definite remix of everything needed. Only a handful of Machina I tracks sound good as they are (TEG, SIYL, AOI for example).

Machina 2 tracks defo need a remix - Slow Dawn for example, sounds like a live in studio demo.
SIYL has one of Billys worst loud at any volume ear splitting clipped distortions in it.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:43 PM   #63
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At the very least we're getting more concrete updates than what we got from Frank Rat Bastard Announcement of an Announcement Newsletter Quinto
updates that come from b'arcy himself are arguably worse and less "concrete"

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:55 PM   #64
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Is calling Billy "b'arcy" supposed to be funny or offensive?

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:11 PM   #65
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Offensive towards D'arcy...

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:17 PM   #66
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Is calling Billy "b'arcy" supposed to be funny or offensive?
you brought it up, so you tell me

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:19 PM   #67
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can it be both

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Old 08-16-2018, 04:45 PM   #68
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Corgan has said that M2 was all just rough mixes, what he had lying around, put on wax
Right, yes, of course, obviously, thanks!

AND YET my point stands: a remix is not going to change the distortion or wetness on the raw audio, all remixing gets you, at bottom, is a chance to pan and eq differently, whereas dummies are acting like, suddenly, mii is gonna sound like Siamese Dream

Do you nerds really not know the difference b/w engineering and mixing

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:02 PM   #69
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"Original mixes" AKA very probably not the stuff you're hearing on MI or MII for that matter.

Remember how BSBT came out on MI and everyone said it sounded like shit on the album? Asking why it was all slowed down and overproduced in comparison to the Arising! Version?

The point of this thing isn't to remaster MI and MII and put them out exactly as they were over again, he's talking about stuff like the FAEOMM version of BSBT - AKA the Arising version. Or stuff like the leaked versions of GATMOG or Home.

Guy said it was going to be "very different". If original versions of MI or MII show up they'll be bonus discs, which is what's being argued about now really.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:08 PM   #70
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Machina 2 could easily be cleaned up in the studio. Tape distortion and such could have been applied to the mix as a whole. Who’s to say that the individual raw tracks aren’t unclipped.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:47 PM   #71
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Right, yes, of course, obviously, thanks!
No problem, glad I could help solve some of your confusion.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:07 PM   #72
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Rinse, repeat

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:06 PM   #73
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embrace the frustration
welcome the letdown
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:28 PM   #74
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:55 PM   #75
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Is calling Billy "b'arcy" supposed to be funny or offensive?
"tell me how to feel about things because I can't make judgments on my own"

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:58 PM   #76
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Is calling Billy "b'arcy" supposed to be funny or offensive?
Do you know where you are?

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:03 PM   #77
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YOU"RE IN THE JUNGLE BABY

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:04 PM   #78
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:16 PM   #79
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Girl look how orange you fucking look girl

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:28 PM   #80
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does someone still have the original planned schedule of the reissues?

I can't remember what timeframe was announced, Gish came out November 2011.

Just wondering if it's been 4 or even more years now of checking in for this damn thing.


welp. time flies.
This was the original announcement, April 26 2011.


 
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:30 PM   #81
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in related news filed under "things that will never happen", the metro DVD will be released to a couple hundred fans who no longer own DVD players
You can still play DVDs on Blu-Ray players.

 
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:48 PM   #82
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:01 AM   #83
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this person knows about stuff

 
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Old 08-17-2018, 02:49 AM   #84
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fuck you Grox

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Old 08-17-2018, 04:11 AM   #85
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Wonder if the live Machina era stuff will sound like Rock On and Pale Scales from the videos DVD being as those were essentially live recordings

 
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Old 08-17-2018, 04:51 AM   #86
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I think Machina II sounds fine

SP fans are spoiled.
perhaps the same can't really be said about Machina I, arguably, but i think M2 sounds great for what it is, and I for one would not want new, sparkling, revisionist mixes.

slick, remixed, cleaned up, rerecorded =/= better sound (not necessarily at least)

more than i'm excited about this reissue, i am curious, in a "get a glimpse behind the scenes" kinda way

 
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:49 AM   #87
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Machina 2 could easily be cleaned up in the studio. Tape distortion and such could have been applied to the mix as a whole. Who’s to say that the individual raw tracks aren’t unclipped.
Name a time Billy has made something sound better.

 
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Name a time Billy has made something sound better.
Siamese Dream sounds better than anything ever made by Smashmouth

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Old 08-17-2018, 07:57 AM   #89
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i think M2 sounds great for what it is, and I for one would not want new, sparkling, revisionist mixes.
So you hope the reissue includes exactly the same recordings you’ve already possessed for 17 years.

MAKES SHENSHE!! Dum dum.

 
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Siamese Dream sounds better than anything ever made by Smashmouth
Clay, is that you?

 
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