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Old 11-30-2018, 09:26 AM   #1411
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"Our biggest fan said the other fans LOVE IT"

"By the way, anyone who doesn't like it -by definition- is not a fan"

 
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Old 11-30-2018, 11:32 AM   #1412
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"We refuse to live in a bygone era when we made good music. Embrace the SHIT."

 
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:09 PM   #1413
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WE UNDERSTAND YOUR ENTHUSIASM, William Patrick Corgan!

Shiny And Oh So Bright, Vol. 1 in the charts today:

U.S.A.: New entry at 54 in the Top 200
https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200

U.K.: From new entry at 43 last week to out of the Top 100
https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/

Germany: From new entry at 20 last week to out of the Top 100
http://www.viva.tv/charts/305-album-top-100

 
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:12 PM   #1414
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He lives in a bubble.

 
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:14 PM   #1415
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He is a lot like Trump in that way. Record bombed, reviews have been mixed at best but as he tells it it's been a massive success.

 
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:14 PM   #1416
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Gonna start taking bets on which will stop first: people comparing Corgan to Trump @ every corner or people acting like Monuments was way worse than it actually was

Starting at $10

 
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Old 11-30-2018, 10:46 PM   #1417
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WE UNDERSTAND YOUR ENTHUSIASM, William Patrick Corgan!

Shiny And Oh So Bright, Vol. 1 in the charts today:

U.S.A.: New entry at 54 in the Top 200
https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200

U.K.: From new entry at 43 last week to out of the Top 100
https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/

Germany: From new entry at 20 last week to out of the Top 100
http://www.viva.tv/charts/305-album-top-100
You know Billy doesn't get notifications for your posts here, don't you? I don't understand why you reply to him as if he was reading.

 
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Old 11-30-2018, 11:38 PM   #1418
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Old 12-01-2018, 12:17 AM   #1419
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Rick Rubin is a hack. He's bad for the Smashing Pumpkins. If could get one message across the ether into Billy's universe, it would be that.

 
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Old 12-01-2018, 02:32 AM   #1420
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You know Billy doesn't get notifications for your posts here, don't you? I don't understand why you reply to him as if he was reading.




I therefore messaged it to him on Facebook with a link too, really...

 
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Old 12-01-2018, 09:29 AM   #1421
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I know Rick Rubin gets a lot of hate here and I would agree that his recent work is shoddy but I also don’t think any of this shit would have been very good even if you had Butch Vig or Flood working on it. Billy is the problem.

 
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Old 12-09-2018, 01:23 AM   #1422
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i just listened to the "album" for the first time in two weeks...

i just want to report it's much worse than i initially remembered :/

 
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Old 12-09-2018, 05:54 AM   #1423
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C’mon, Silvery Sometimes and With Sympathy are alright.

 
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Old 12-09-2018, 07:31 AM   #1424
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two tracks do not an album make

 
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Old 12-09-2018, 10:09 AM   #1425
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I think "Marchin' On" was not only good as a symbolic title for the rest of the album...

 
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Old 12-09-2018, 10:13 AM   #1426
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i just listened to the "album" for the first time in two weeks...

i just want to report it's much worse than i initially remembered :/
The exact same thing happened with me. I figured if I distanced myself from it and came back to it a few weeks later without expectations that I might appreciate it more but the opposite occurred .

 
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Old 12-09-2018, 12:09 PM   #1427
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Well fuck y'all cos the opposite happened for me

I went expecting to be relatively more "non-plussed" after being away from it/the relative excitement of a new B,J, & J record but it was actually a better experience. Record really comes off as relaxed & not trying too hard like a good amount of earlier SP2 stuff and I mean, sure it's not exactly a "return to the golden days" but it's no further down the tunnel of darkness they/he was going earlier this decade

Silvery Sometimes, Marchin' On & With Sympathy are still my favorites but even Solara didn't suck this time around

 
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Old 12-09-2018, 02:02 PM   #1428
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Well fuck y'all cos the opposite happened for me

I went expecting to be relatively more "non-plussed" after being away from it/the relative excitement of a new B,J, & J record but it was actually a better experience. Record really comes off as relaxed & not trying too hard like a good amount of earlier SP2 stuff and I mean, sure it's not exactly a "return to the golden days" but it's no further down the tunnel of darkness they/he was going earlier this decade

Silvery Sometimes, Marchin' On & With Sympathy are still my favorites but even Solara didn't suck this time around
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Old 12-10-2018, 06:17 PM   #1429
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My current feeling about the album, listening to it about once every other day, I feel like I heard this sort of material with MtaE, it's just too much of the same for me.

 
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Old 12-10-2018, 07:14 PM   #1430
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:03 PM   #1431
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well you don't know if you like it if you don't try it every other day, year in year out. Don't give up easily, say, after a year or five. After having given twenty years of your life to this album, and you still don't like it, sure, you can maybe start doing something else. But if your fandom is truly pure, you still don't give up and double the listens. At least once each day from now on, for at least 20 more years. you can't have been doing this for nothing. It will pay off one day.

And then it may or may not have paid off, but one day you die and people will know you for that guy who listened to that album every day of his life the past twenty or so years. And they will play the album at your funeral because they think you probably liked it. Jupiter September or something will post a lukewarm tweet thing on what will be the twitter of that age, praising your devotion to his dad's work. It has paid off, after all.

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Old 12-10-2018, 08:17 PM   #1432
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Too few words, and way too many, respectively.

 
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:51 PM   #1433
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There are 4 songs I like on the album... Silvery Sometimes (Ghosts), Marching On, Travels, Knights of Malta. The other 4 are too bland for me. Not offensively bad, just bland.

I don't pay attention to the charts because most people don't like music I like.

 
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:25 PM   #1434
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My current feeling about the album, listening to it about once every other day, I feel like I heard this sort of material with MtaE, it's just too much of the same for me.
dude wth. I feel decidedly positive about the album's mediocrity and straight up think 3-4 songs are really good, and I am not listening to it even once a week. Do you only listen to smashing pumpkins? Why would you continue listening to an album every other day over a month after we heard it if you don't like it?

 
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:26 PM   #1435
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I think you might benefit from being strapped to a chair and forced to listen to Daughters – You Won't Get What You Want over and over

 
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:57 PM   #1436
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I sit and work at a computer all day, with a playlist of music going. I'm not consciously deciding to listen to it, it just comes up in the playlist. At some point I'll pull it and I probably won't hear it again for a year, or whenever I fiend for some SP 2.0 again.

Speaking of, I think the SP 2.0 material I probably have gone back to the most often is the audio rip of the IAGW live disc, which not surprisingly was never offered as a standalone audio release.

 
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Old 12-10-2018, 10:01 PM   #1437
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Old 12-10-2018, 11:20 PM   #1438
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>The actual "Shiny And Oh So Bright, Vol. 1 / LP: No Past. No Future. No Sun" chart history<

The album promotion tour didn't rescue the band from getting smashed even in the U.S. charts:

BOLLY has left the building

https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200


Only one week in the U.K. and German Top 100 album charts;

and now even only one week in the U.S. Billboard 200!

That's actually more than 325 million trolls in the U.S. alone -beside Netphoria...


But on the positive side:
The not so "Shiny And Oh So Bright" was at least one week not only at 54, but on No. 5 in the vinyl charts!
(https://www.billboard.com/charts/vinyl-albums (last week))

 
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Old 12-10-2018, 11:25 PM   #1439
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Old 12-10-2018, 11:29 PM   #1440
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