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Old 04-22-2014, 09:49 PM   #31
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:50 PM   #32
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obviously we're getting into meaningless subjective definitions, but I don't think veering farther and farther into atonality and torture noises makes a band "heavier." Sabbath is the heaviest band to me, because the power of the guitars and the drums feels like an endless tidal wave of rock insanity pummeling me into the bottom of the ocean. SP comes pretty close to this at times. The more "metal" a band gets, the more I usually feel the power of the music is gutted by toneless, thin, staticy guitars through solid state amps, indecipherable screaming, and gimmicky shitty double-kick speed drums. It's almost like you try so hard you just completely miss the mark. When everything is turned up to level 10 insanity at all times, you lose the context and the music doesn't seem powerful anymore


yah... luckily though there are so many metal acts that many of them squeeze out a gem or two and that's about all the use I need from such bands.


CW, check your gray against this:




 
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:52 PM   #33
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why would anyone listen to that shit

 
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:54 PM   #34
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a couple of metal dudes where i work are always bitching about avenged sevenfold (their single "hail to the king" gets played on rock radio a lot) and they say that they sound like a metallica cover band now

 
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:55 PM   #35
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they play the shit out of that song

and also that "way down below way down below" song that sounds like reba mcintire
and that magic dragons song that gets played on every single station "radioactive - welcome to the new age"

i hate all of them and have to hear them several times a day

 
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:57 PM   #36
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heavy metal shred style lead guitar is just so fucking cheesy and awful too


hey I have an idea it will sound awesome if I play every scale I know in this song all with 256th notes

 
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:59 PM   #37
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this is what fucking heavy is



 
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:07 PM   #38
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why would anyone listen to that shit


i get it, not enough balls. you're right, try this:









hey CW, if this doesn't get you going then check your pulse.

 
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:19 PM   #39
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they play the shit out of that song

and also that "way down below way down below" song that sounds like reba mcintire
and that magic dragons song that gets played on every single station "radioactive - welcome to the new age"

i hate all of them and have to hear them several times a day




right. like i said, a gem or two. I couldn't care less about avenged 7 as a band or any other song they have, but Bat Country kicks ass and is a standout song for the genre.

 
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:29 PM   #40
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lol

 
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Old 04-23-2014, 01:03 AM   #41
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Old 04-23-2014, 01:18 AM   #42
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Old 04-23-2014, 04:00 AM   #43
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i guess "metal" is number two on the list of redbre's biggest failures on his musical sojurn

 
Old 04-23-2014, 06:51 AM   #44
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this is what fucking heavy is


uh no, no it's not

 
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cliched probably, but this is in A# tuning. literally heavy.


 
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:55 AM   #46
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legalise drugs & murder

 
Old 04-23-2014, 06:58 AM   #47
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actually this, from about the 3 minute mark


 
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and let's not forget our old friends


 
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actually this, from about the 3 minute mark

/me jerks off

 
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i guess "metal" is number two on the list of redbre's biggest failures on his musical sojurn
Hah!!!

 
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Old 04-23-2014, 12:52 PM   #51
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heavy metal shred style lead guitar is just so fucking cheesy and awful too


hey I have an idea it will sound awesome if I play every scale I know in this song all with 256th notes

Who cares what it sounds like, it's impressive!

Its like gymnastics. not much to do with music. Unfortunately a lot of people (actually make that guys mainly) who ever pick up an instrument, especially guitar, have a pretty big ego (which is used to hide insecurity) and the worst that could happen is if someone called what they play easy. Hence shredding solos.

 
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yeah there were plenty of metal fans who liked MCIS and even SD
Truth. I grew up as a thrash metal only kid. SP were my introduction to other genres because they were close enough to metal without actually being metal.

 
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Old 04-23-2014, 04:03 PM   #53
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without sabbath there's not much for any of those bands to stand on

 
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this is what fucking heavy is


Your point would've been better made had you chosen Master Of Reality instead. Though I'm Hardcore would still win this debate with his examples (and probably countless others).

 
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Old 04-23-2014, 05:03 PM   #55
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sheer ignorance. none of those bands is heavier than black sabbath and also their music is not anywhere near as good or innovative

 
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Old 04-23-2014, 05:07 PM   #56
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Old 04-23-2014, 06:11 PM   #57
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sheer ignorance. none of those bands is heavier than black sabbath and also their music is not anywhere near as good or innovative
here we go with this dumb shit

for one thing neurosis is built on swans

 
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:26 PM   #58
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omg do you like swans i never would have guessed

 
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Old 04-23-2014, 07:30 PM   #59
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omg you've never listened to a swans record i never would have guessed

 
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YES IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT SABBATH PAVED THE WAY FOR HEAVY METAL BANDS

 
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