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Old 01-07-2018, 07:10 AM   #1
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Default “Remnant of a distant Siamese Dream past”

Do we know which MCIS demos were initially outtakes from Siamese Dream? I’ve read that Set the Ray to Jerry and Meladori Magpie were carried over from SD. Are there any others?

 
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Old 01-07-2018, 09:40 AM   #2
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Do we know which MCIS demos were initially outtakes from Siamese Dream? I’ve read that Set the Ray to Jerry and Meladori Magpie were carried over from SD. Are there any others?
bullet with butterfly wings
MCIS into piano theme
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Old 01-07-2018, 09:58 AM   #3
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I didn't know the MCIS theme had been around since then. That is interesting. I knew the Bullet riff had originated from SD, just forgot to inclood it.

 
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:32 AM   #4
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IIRC there's a clip in viewphoria, billy at a piano in a moose sweater, There's no audio but if you watch his hands you can make out that he's playing the MCIS theme.

 
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Old 01-07-2018, 11:26 AM   #5
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In the liner notes to Mellon Collie, I think Billy mentioned they had been playing variations of Jellybelly since the early 1990s.

 
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Old 01-07-2018, 02:07 PM   #6
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I've been playing variations OF YOUR FATHER

 
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Old 01-07-2018, 05:06 PM   #7
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Do we know which MCIS demos were initially outtakes from Siamese Dream? I’ve read that Set the Ray to Jerry and Meladori Magpie were carried over from SD. Are there any others?
Set The Ray To Jerry, though a b-side, apparently dates back to Nov. '92 on that recording sessions site... Broadway rehearsals. And, of course, Infinite Sadness ended up on the original vinyl tracklist.

 
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:35 PM   #8
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:50 PM   #9
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:11 AM   #10
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:15 AM   #11
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Lololol avery loren too but he softened the blow with a "sorry "

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Old 01-08-2018, 01:16 AM   #12
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Old 01-08-2018, 04:31 AM   #13
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:42 AM   #14
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:46 AM   #15
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I’ve read that Set the Ray to Jerry and Meladori Magpie were carried over from SD.
hear 'em as well




 
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:49 AM   #16
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In the liner notes to Mellon Collie, I think Billy mentioned they had been playing variations of Jellybelly since the early 1990s.
it's been a while since i heard one of the old songs being called "jellybelly" from that time but i remember thinking they sounded nothing like the JB from Mellon Collie

 
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:11 AM   #17
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Old 01-08-2018, 09:28 AM   #18
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IIRC there's a clip in viewphoria, billy at a piano in a moose sweater, There's no audio but if you watch his hands you can make out that he's playing the MCIS theme.
No, that was not from Viewphoria. That was from the MTV Rockumentary. afaik the MCIS dates from 94/95.

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Old 01-08-2018, 09:34 AM   #19
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In the liner notes to Mellon Collie, I think Billy mentioned they had been playing variations of Jellybelly since the early 1990s.
iirc this is the song that Jellybelly came out of:
https://archive.org/details/tsp1992-...-09-04t14.flac

 
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:27 AM   #20
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it's been a while since i heard one of the old songs being called "jellybelly" from that time but i remember thinking they sounded nothing like the JB from Mellon Collie
Yea, if I remember right, the old "Jellybelly" sounded more like STP. I know there's a video called "Jellybelly early version" that sounds nothing like the final track. But I looked in the liner notes for MCIS, and Billy sure enough mentions they had been playing the song in some form since the early 1990s.

 
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Old 01-08-2018, 03:16 PM   #21
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Old 01-08-2018, 06:44 PM   #22
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these are the MCIS era and beyond songs that were written before the fall of 1994

set the ray to jerry
meladori magpie
mouths of babes
marquis in spades
bullet with butterfly wings
galapagos
here is no why
zero
love
pennies
ugly
the aeroplane flies high
tonight, tonight
speed
for martha (guitar lead, also known as 'the other side')
infinite sadness (not MCIS, that was not written until late 1994)
porcelina (sort of, he wrote the lyrics on the bus during lollapalooza, and there's that spacey instrumental bit in the Vieuphoria Lost Tapes, but like Jellybelly, the final song has no resemblance to that spacey bit)

 
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:48 PM   #23
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I think that ""For Martha" demo" is actually an electric version of "Wishing You Were"





But that's just my opinion and I'm powerless to change way an obscure unreleased song has gone by for twenty years

 
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Old 01-09-2018, 04:44 PM   #24
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it was listed as 'The Other Side' on the tape that Billy gave to that fan back in 2000 or so

 
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