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Old 01-04-2018, 09:33 PM   #31
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Jimmy's cymbal setup looks really small, too. I know he's switched to Istanbul, but it looks very minimalist: 2 crashes, hats, and a ride

https://istanbulcymbals.com/artists/...hamberlin.html

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:05 PM   #32
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that ... at the end of that statement seems ominous.. SHOW US DARCY
nah, don't you remember that LiveJournal? he's a notorious ellipses-abuser

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:09 PM   #33
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Sorry to let yous down, but Howard Willing is involved - what makes me think this is not for a pumpkins reunion, but for Billy's new album:

With @officialcheaptrick #music #nashville #studio #rocknroll

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Old 01-04-2018, 10:15 PM   #35
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There are a few more pictures there but I'm only able to embed the first picture of each bunch
https://www.instagram.com/howardwilling_thebear/

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:18 PM   #36
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So I guess JC is only using 4 cymbals now

Imagine if instagram was around when they were recording SD or MCIS

* our drummer's gone on a coke bender, if you see him pls let us know

* check out our new sitar

* this whole album will be in Eb

* instead of including towers of rabble or rotten apples, we'll ******* synth rambling under the guise of 'we only come out at night'

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:20 PM   #37
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Can't be for the solo album. Billy said on December 19th https://www.instagram.com/p/Bc5QtvcD...williampcorgan he'd return to Nashville in February for overdubs on that.

"Just finished recasting/reworking the outlier song that hadn't made the cut of 16 in Nashville (to be recorded when I go back for overdubs in February(?). So at least a double LP looks more likely now. I've also been reworking the 'Dust and Ruin' songs from 2000-2002 for re-recording (some, not all) which sets up a future release of the original tapes (recently transferred anew). And now, back to #Christmasland #Ogilala #WPC #billyboy."

He also put #smashingpumpkins on December 16th https://www.instagram.com/p/Bcxk80ZA...williampcorgan when talking about a meeting with Jimmy.

"Off to meet @chamberdrums for lunch and a holiday party or two, too. Overdressed, or? #lifebeginsat50 #stnick #nwa #smashingpumpkins #madamezuzusteahouse."

Billy also described his new solo album as very raw and stripped down. I guess Howard is his go to producer for both projects.

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:23 PM   #38
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Can't be for the solo album. Billy said on December 19th https://www.instagram.com/p/Bc5QtvcD...williampcorgan he'd return to Nashville in February for overdubs on that.

"Just finished recasting/reworking the outlier song that hadn't made the cut of 16 in Nashville (to be recorded when I go back for overdubs in February(?). So at least a double LP looks more likely now. I've also been reworking the 'Dust and Ruin' songs from 2000-2002 for re-recording (some, not all) which sets up a future release of the original tapes (recently transferred anew). And now, back to #Christmasland #Ogilala #WPC #billyboy."

He also put #smashingpumpkins on December 16th https://www.instagram.com/p/Bcxk80ZA...williampcorgan when talking about a meeting with Jimmy.

"Off to meet @chamberdrums for lunch and a holiday party or two, too. Overdressed, or? #lifebeginsat50 #stnick #nwa #smashingpumpkins #madamezuzusteahouse."

Billy also described his new solo album as very raw and stripped down. I guess Howard is his go to producer for both projects.
Well, maybe they're re-recording those songs now.

I refuse to accept the band would reunite after almost 20 years apart and pick Howard to produce them.

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:26 PM   #39
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Well, maybe they're re-recording those songs now.

I refuse to accept the band would reunite street almost 20 years apart and pick Howard to produce them.
But Billy didn't say in the December 19th post that any of the songs for his next solo album needed to be re-recorded, he said all he had left to do was overdubs and possibly one additional song. Why would he need Jimmy Chamberlin and a bunch of big rock guitars for a stripped down raw solo album that he already recorded last month?

Howard producing doesn't matter if he now has James, D'arcy, and Jimmy to bounce ideas off of.

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:27 PM   #40
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here he is getting his news from netphoria again

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:31 PM   #41
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But Billy didn't say in the December 19th post that any of the songs for his next solo album needed to be re-recorded, he said all he had left to do was overdubs and possibly one additional song. Why would he need Jimmy Chamberlin and a bunch of big rock guitars for a stripped down raw solo album that he already recorded last month?

Howard producing doesn't matter if he now has James, D'arcy, and Jimmy to bounce ideas off of.

I'm talking about the Dust and Ruin songs he mentioned on that post. They are songs 2000 - 2002(post-pumpkins, pre-zwan, djali zwan), Billy and Jimmy were both involved back them. Billy says he's re-recording some of them for a future release ...

" I've also been reworking the 'Dust and Ruin' songs from 2000-2002 for re-recording (some, not all) which sets up a future release of the original tapes (recently transferred anew)"

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:37 PM   #42
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Butch Vig did like the last 3 shitty Foo Fighters records

How can SP not get him for the reunion?

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:37 PM   #43
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:40 PM   #44
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here he is getting his news from netphoria again
Butch talked about it last year:

"Weíve sort of talked kind of loosely about recording some songs together. Iíve been in touch with Billy. I donít know if I could do an album with him, we would probably kill each other. He may be a father, heís mellowed a little bit, but heís still pretty damn intense.

I also run into James Iha a lot, because it looks like his son might be going to school where my daughter goes to school. I see him at a breakfast place in Silverlake in the neighborhood. James is awesome, and James and Billy have been working again together, so itís possible.

For one of the box sets that came out, I went and remixed the original 7 inch single, it had ĎTristessa.í Billy sent me the tapes, and it was sort of shocking for me to hear, because there were a lot of effects on the mix we did, like flanging, chorusing, and reverb. When I did the remix, I kind of just put the faders up and added a little bit of slap echo to Billyís vocal, and just mixed it like that, so it was just really dry. God did it sound good, the band was just so powerful sounding. I know Jimmy Chamberlin is playing with them too. If Jimmy is playing with Billy, thatís really the core and feel of their sound. So fingers crossed, maybe weíll get in the studio at some point in the future"

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:43 PM   #45
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Well, maybe they're re-recording those songs now.

I refuse to accept the band would reunite after almost 20 years apart and pick Howard to produce them.
It seems totally the thing Billy would do.

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:53 PM   #46
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I'm talking about the Dust and Ruin songs he mentioned on that post. They are songs 2000 - 2002(post-pumpkins, pre-zwan, djali zwan), Billy and Jimmy were both involved back them. Billy says he's re-recording some of them for a future release ...

" I've also been reworking the 'Dust and Ruin' songs from 2000-2002 for re-recording (some, not all) which sets up a future release of the original tapes (recently transferred anew)"
That's a possibility. Seems like a big waste though when he hasn't recorded with Jimmy in 10 years to do that first rather than new material.

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:06 PM   #47
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FUCK yeah, thanks for posting!

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:06 PM   #48
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what's happening in los angeles?

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:07 PM   #49
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Maybe they are rehearing for an Audio Vanguard Association reunion... secret show at the Viper Room.

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:10 PM   #50
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hey guys, no one has said Butch ISN'T there.

Also, very good chance SP is working on demos? doesn't necessarily look like a big time studio set up, looks more demo like.

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:14 PM   #51
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I live here in So. Cal - and would always follow this site for concert updates, looks like it's still really solid. Gonna start perusing on the regular.

http://www.casenet.com/concert/concert.html

Seems like a storm is brewing here, friends.

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:23 PM   #52
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I live here in So. Cal - and would always follow this site for concert updates, looks like it's still really solid. Gonna start perusing on the regular.

http://www.casenet.com/concert/concert.html

Seems like a storm is brewing here, friends.
im not following what you're saying here??

 
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:52 PM   #53
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HOWARD WILLING being involved doesn't mean, he has to be their producer.
He worked for the SMASHING PUMPKINS since ADORE as one of their recording engineers.

On this credit list he is mostly mentioned as recording engineer:
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/howa...275769/credits

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ARMS_OF_SHEEP, please leak the 2018 demos

 
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:15 AM   #55
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im not following what you're saying here??
Just gonna keep my eye on that every few days. I don't see them doing something as insane as playing a show under a fake name and not announcing it, but then again - Zwan's first show was at a dive bar in Salt Lake City.

Additionally, he just posted this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdjhSkOD...williampcorgan

That one could be alternately captioned: "When you're busy reuniting one of the greatest bands of the modern era and your kid's mom texts you with a guilt trip to post a photo of her sister Di's kid and wish her a happy birthday"

 
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There are a few more pictures there but I'm only able to embed the first picture of each bunch
https://www.instagram.com/howardwilling_thebear/
If you go on the photograph the arrows show up for skimming to the next picture.

 
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Glad to see my rock and roll guitars have arrived in LA

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I'd wager that is Iha's LP there as it's the same exact one he used throughout the APC tour.

 
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* instead of including towers of rabble or rotten apples, we'll ******* synth rambling under the guise of 'we only come out at night'
That's "pretty autoharp strumming' and you leave that song the hell alone.

Anyway:

Re-recorded Zwan tracks that never saw the light of day as the basis for a new album is my bet and I'm sticking with it.

 
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I'd wager that is Iha's LP there as it's the same exact one he used throughout the APC tour.

Oh shit I think you're right. It's very James Iha to only bring one guitar

I wonder if Corgan will let him play on the record!

 
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Old 01-05-2018, 08:22 AM   #60
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Smashing Pumpkins Reunion
featuring longtime guitarist Jeff Shredder and Ginger/nameless female bassist.




black LP... there's 10000's in the world. it's not jame's guitar.

 
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