Solara is out for real - Page 21

fuzzyroes · 06-10-2018, 02:35 AM

Well, the lyrics are something that have to be taken into account.

The 90's are HUGE with teenagers and people in their early 20's right now. Similar to how "That 70's show" and 70's music was cool again in the late 90's/early 00's. So, the lyrics might not mean much to us, but the "I'm not everyone" type of lyrics might really be resonating with the kids. If you look on youtube and on other comment boards, there seems to be a lot of people really connecting with the song.

fuzzyroes · 06-10-2018, 02:37 AM

It's easy to dismiss the mass positive reaction as paid promotion, but I'm not sure that's the case.

VoxUpDoc · 06-10-2018, 04:55 AM

I think these vocals may be BC's worst performance on a studio track.

I've had to turn the track off twice because the chorus is so bad... going to delete it soon enough. COUGARED.

Cool As Ice Cream · 06-10-2018, 05:38 AM

It's a rather nuanced song. It reminds me of Transformer, You're All I've Got Tonight. But also The End is the Beginning and Tarantula. I also hear a strong goth vibe sorta like Ava Adore but I can't quite put my finger on it. The lyrical connections to Porcelaina too- (and in my mind I'm everyone).
I hear Nirvana, Cars, some punk aspects, pop, indie. Jimmy's drumming is spot on and makes the song. And I can't help but move to it.

incubator · 06-10-2018, 08:48 AM

It's terrible. There's no point in it existing.

Some people could be fooled into thinking it's good because there's nothing obviously wrong with it (other than the drumming which is so bad it sounds like either a cry for help or a coded message to listeners - "Yes I know this song is terrible"). The performance, mix and mastering are fine. It's all in tune and in time. Billy doesn't do a rap verse or sing anything really lame. The vocals aren't as good as 90s Corgan but, technically, he can sing ok. It, superficially, "rocks". It doesn't go on too long. It's fine. So it's difficult to say it's terrible as it doesn't do anything wrong.

It's hard to evaluate because ordinarily something like this wouldn't get released. People aren't used to hearing music that's this awful / competent. If it were a new band then they wouldn't get picked up because..why? And if an established band handed something like this in they'd get told to try again and end up in record label limbo. In 2018 with the Smashing Pumpkins though, who cares? It probably took a day in the studio and they can stick it on youtube and spotify, no ones losing any money.

Here's an attempted comeback by novelty band, Limp Bizkit, listen and compare to Solara.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGednQsQ-h8

It's not a fair fight at all - this is a song completely forgotten by everyone by a shit band that no one likes and it destroys Solara on every level.

incubator · 06-10-2018, 08:51 AM

Like... if you think Solara is good and worth listening to I IMPLORE YOU - listen to some other fucking bands. Check out some bands in your town / city or go to your local record shop and buy something with cool cover art or something . anything .

brothahi4L · 06-10-2018, 09:36 AM

Stop trying to find something good about the song. Its fucking lame. No iha on the track and the drums are overplayed.
Corgans ego wont let iha play anything on the song, where is the guitar interplay????
This song has the vibe lof starz, fol, superchrist.
Who told bill to release a lame song like that????

LaBelle · 06-10-2018, 09:54 AM

I thought it dragged for twice as long as it should.

But that's just me and I could only bear to hear it the one time.

byoung88 · 06-10-2018, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by incubator

It's terrible. There's no point in it existing.

Some people could be fooled into thinking it's good because there's nothing obviously wrong with it (other than the drumming which is so bad it sounds like either a cry for help or a coded message to listeners - "Yes I know this song is terrible"). The performance, mix and mastering are fine. It's all in tune and in time. Billy doesn't do a rap verse or sing anything really lame. The vocals aren't as good as 90s Corgan but, technically, he can sing ok. It, superficially, "rocks". It doesn't go on too long. It's fine. So it's difficult to say it's terrible as it doesn't do anything wrong.

It's hard to evaluate because ordinarily something like this wouldn't get released. People aren't used to hearing music that's this awful / competent. If it were a new band then they wouldn't get picked up because..why? And if an established band handed something like this in they'd get told to try again and end up in record label limbo. In 2018 with the Smashing Pumpkins though, who cares? It probably took a day in the studio and they can stick it on youtube and spotify, no ones losing any money.

Here's an attempted comeback by novelty band, Limp Bizkit, listen and compare to Solara.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGednQsQ-h8

It's not a fair fight at all - this is a song completely forgotten by everyone by a shit band that no one likes and it destroys Solara on every level.

holy shit.. if smashing pumpkins came out with this i'd be fucking stoked. this song is 1000 times better than solara. jesus

Theendiscoming · 06-10-2018, 10:08 AM

For the clueless wait until the live performance tomorrow on Fallon! Youtube will have over 1 million views for Solara soon in less than a week. All the negative publicity is free and the catalog isn't going anywhere but up. You want to re-live the past , are in the present but not dreaming the future.

incubator · 06-10-2018, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by byoung88

holy shit.. if smashing pumpkins came out with this i'd be fucking stoked. this song is 1000 times better than solara. jesus

Yeah and it’s by limp fuckin bizkit. And it’s not even good. It’s a big world there’s a lotta music out there. Solaras a waste of time

Glopaiswe · 06-10-2018, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Theendiscoming

For the clueless wait until the live performance tomorrow on Fallon! Youtube will have over 1 million views for Solara soon in less than a week. All the negative publicity is free and the catalog isn't going anywhere but up. You want to re-live the past , are in the present but not dreaming the future.

ok

Forgotten Child · 06-10-2018, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theendiscoming

For the clueless wait until the live performance tomorrow on Fallon! Youtube will have over 1 million views for Solara soon in less than a week. All the negative publicity is free and the catalog isn't going anywhere but up. You want to re-live the past , are in the present but not dreaming the future.

I thought all we wanted was good music. Weird.

Shadaloo · 06-10-2018, 11:01 AM

What bugs me is that I can kind of hear an attempt for a straightforward heavy number like HKK or something off Pisces but the musicianship just isn't there. It sounds like they're trying to make magic happen by just getting together and rocking out but they forgot how to make it all gel.

It's not the worst thing Bill's ever put out but it's easily the worst produced. It all just feels sloppy. Rubin was a terrible choice for this.

houseofglass11 · 06-10-2018, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theendiscoming

For the clueless wait until the live performance tomorrow on Fallon! Youtube will have over 1 million views for Solara soon in less than a week. All the negative publicity is free and the catalog isn't going anywhere but up. You want to re-live the past , are in the present but not dreaming the future.

Yeah ok billy. The song still sucks. Put some reverb on your vocals for fucks sake.

fluxequalsrad · 06-10-2018, 11:10 AM

no mental gymnastics are going to change the verdict on this autopsy. This song is a big hot turd.

Butt Pope · 06-10-2018, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theendiscoming

For the clueless wait until the live performance tomorrow on Fallon! Youtube will have over 1 million views for Solara soon in less than a week. All the negative publicity is free and the catalog isn't going anywhere but up. You want to re-live the past , are in the present but not dreaming the future.

Lol. It will be lucky to have a million views by the end of the tour

slayed23 · 06-10-2018, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theendiscoming

For the clueless wait until the live performance tomorrow on Fallon! Youtube will have over 1 million views for Solara soon in less than a week. All the negative publicity is free and the catalog isn't going anywhere but up. You want to re-live the past , are in the present but not dreaming the future.

Fallon endorsed them yesterday at the Belmont. Was nice of him. He didn't have to do that.

It's probably the most watched SP song since Tarantula on youtube.

Personally, I don't like the song that much. Coming from a metal background, it's just meh. However, I am not going to dig on people that like the song, which is what a lot of people are doing on here. It's regrettable. Music is so subjective. There is never a right or wrong answer. Either you like something or you don't.

Forgotten Child · 06-10-2018, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by slayed23

It's probably the most watched SP song since Tarantula on youtube.

Tarantula
4.5m views

That's The Way
984k views

The Celestials
960,242 views

Drum + Fife
611k views

Run To Me
198k views

The Spaniards
157k views

Aeronaut
170k views - video
260k views - song only

Solara
236,438 views

pavementtune · 06-10-2018, 11:44 AM

that's 3 days in, though.

I'm surprised how many views this got already, by the end of the tour it might have more than what Drum+Fife got in 3 years, no?

Funbags · 06-10-2018, 12:02 PM

The Fallon performance should be interesting.

Has Billy lost weight?
3 guitars sound good?
Is Solara better live?
D'arcy's absence glaringly obvious?

THESE ARE SOME DOT POINTS

Forgotten Child · 06-10-2018, 12:14 PM

We also have to take in consideration they are promoting this reunion way, way more than anything they did since Zeitgeist. Anything off Monuments is not a very good yardstick, the bar is very low there. Oceania didn't get a promo video or a proper lead single (as far as I remember, that was Billy's idea) yet The Celestials got almost 1m views. In my opinion, if you don't grab people's attention within the first week, it's gone! Even though they will still release the official video, I doubt it's gonna be good enough to bring anymore people to watch it.

incubator · 06-10-2018, 12:29 PM

Fucking hell. How cares about YouTube views. The song is shit.

enthusaroo · 06-10-2018, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theendiscoming

For the clueless wait until the live performance tomorrow on Fallon! Youtube will have over 1 million views for Solara soon in less than a week. All the negative publicity is free and the catalog isn't going anywhere but up. You want to re-live the past , are in the present but not dreaming the future.

giant 'tard alert

brothahi4L · 06-10-2018, 01:09 PM

Lol. Nirvana or foo fighter songs have much more clicks than sp. Are they better? No its subjective. Solara and the reunion got promoted heavily- thats why a shitty song has 230000 clicks by now

brothahi4L · 06-10-2018, 01:10 PM

The drumming annoys me after my 3rd listen

jakobtheliar · 06-10-2018, 02:03 PM

Why do the drums sound like this???why is this bully's preference? Compress and EQ them until they don't sound real. There's nearly no cymbals. It sounds like oash blech and there is no riff. It's 3 chords. And the ending is like Starz 2: diet Starz with no impressive drum solo.

jakobtheliar · 06-10-2018, 02:04 PM

PS. I don't think James played on this. That's bully playing every part

Butt Pope · 06-10-2018, 02:09 PM

My friend whose uncle works on the Tonight Show said that instead of Solara they are going to play Where Boys Fear to Tread. Should be cool!

DemonUnicorns · 06-10-2018, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Butt Pope

My friend whose uncle works on the Tonight Show said that instead of Solara they are going to play Where Boys Fear to Tread. Should be cool!

muh hart

06-10-2018, 12:02 PM	#621
Funbags Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,426	The Fallon performance should be interesting. Has Billy lost weight? 3 guitars sound good? Is Solara better live? D'arcy's absence glaringly obvious? THESE ARE SOME DOT POINTS

06-10-2018, 02:35 AM	#601
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	Well, the lyrics are something that have to be taken into account. The 90's are HUGE with teenagers and people in their early 20's right now. Similar to how "That 70's show" and 70's music was cool again in the late 90's/early 00's. So, the lyrics might not mean much to us, but the "I'm not everyone" type of lyrics might really be resonating with the kids. If you look on youtube and on other comment boards, there seems to be a lot of people really connecting with the song.

06-10-2018, 02:37 AM	#602
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	It's easy to dismiss the mass positive reaction as paid promotion, but I'm not sure that's the case.

06-10-2018, 04:55 AM	#603
VoxUpDoc Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,881	I think these vocals may be BC's worst performance on a studio track. I've had to turn the track off twice because the chorus is so bad... going to delete it soon enough. COUGARED.

06-10-2018, 05:38 AM	#604
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	It's a rather nuanced song. It reminds me of Transformer, You're All I've Got Tonight. But also The End is the Beginning and Tarantula. I also hear a strong goth vibe sorta like Ava Adore but I can't quite put my finger on it. The lyrical connections to Porcelaina too- (and in my mind I'm everyone). I hear Nirvana, Cars, some punk aspects, pop, indie. Jimmy's drumming is spot on and makes the song. And I can't help but move to it.

06-10-2018, 08:48 AM	#605
incubator Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,235	It's terrible. There's no point in it existing. Some people could be fooled into thinking it's good because there's nothing obviously wrong with it (other than the drumming which is so bad it sounds like either a cry for help or a coded message to listeners - "Yes I know this song is terrible"). The performance, mix and mastering are fine. It's all in tune and in time. Billy doesn't do a rap verse or sing anything really lame. The vocals aren't as good as 90s Corgan but, technically, he can sing ok. It, superficially, "rocks". It doesn't go on too long. It's fine. So it's difficult to say it's terrible as it doesn't do anything wrong. It's hard to evaluate because ordinarily something like this wouldn't get released. People aren't used to hearing music that's this awful / competent. If it were a new band then they wouldn't get picked up because..why? And if an established band handed something like this in they'd get told to try again and end up in record label limbo. In 2018 with the Smashing Pumpkins though, who cares? It probably took a day in the studio and they can stick it on youtube and spotify, no ones losing any money. Here's an attempted comeback by novelty band, Limp Bizkit, listen and compare to Solara. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGednQsQ-h8 It's not a fair fight at all - this is a song completely forgotten by everyone by a shit band that no one likes and it destroys Solara on every level.

06-10-2018, 08:51 AM	#606
incubator Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,235	Like... if you think Solara is good and worth listening to I IMPLORE YOU - listen to some other fucking bands. Check out some bands in your town / city or go to your local record shop and buy something with cool cover art or something . anything .

06-10-2018, 09:36 AM	#607
brothahi4L Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,714	Stop trying to find something good about the song. Its fucking lame. No iha on the track and the drums are overplayed. Corgans ego wont let iha play anything on the song, where is the guitar interplay???? This song has the vibe lof starz, fol, superchrist. Who told bill to release a lame song like that????

06-10-2018, 09:54 AM	#608
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,398	I thought it dragged for twice as long as it should. But that's just me and I could only bear to hear it the one time.

06-10-2018, 10:08 AM	#610
Theendiscoming Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 6	For the clueless wait until the live performance tomorrow on Fallon! Youtube will have over 1 million views for Solara soon in less than a week. All the negative publicity is free and the catalog isn't going anywhere but up. You want to re-live the past , are in the present but not dreaming the future.

06-10-2018, 11:01 AM	#614
Shadaloo Apocalyptic Poster Location: up on the cross you go little fella Posts: 2,676	What bugs me is that I can kind of hear an attempt for a straightforward heavy number like HKK or something off Pisces but the musicianship just isn't there. It sounds like they're trying to make magic happen by just getting together and rocking out but they forgot how to make it all gel. It's not the worst thing Bill's ever put out but it's easily the worst produced. It all just feels sloppy. Rubin was a terrible choice for this.

06-10-2018, 11:10 AM	#616
fluxequalsrad Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 4,275	no mental gymnastics are going to change the verdict on this autopsy. This song is a big hot turd.

06-10-2018, 11:44 AM	#620
pavementtune ************** Location: I'm a quitter. I come from a long line of quitters. It's amazing I'm here at all. Posts: 8,661	that's 3 days in, though. I'm surprised how many views this got already, by the end of the tour it might have more than what Drum+Fife got in 3 years, no?

06-10-2018, 12:14 PM	#622
Forgotten Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: SP, Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 4,878	We also have to take in consideration they are promoting this reunion way, way more than anything they did since Zeitgeist. Anything off Monuments is not a very good yardstick, the bar is very low there. Oceania didn't get a promo video or a proper lead single (as far as I remember, that was Billy's idea) yet The Celestials got almost 1m views. In my opinion, if you don't grab people's attention within the first week, it's gone! Even though they will still release the official video, I doubt it's gonna be good enough to bring anymore people to watch it.

06-10-2018, 12:29 PM	#623
incubator Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,235	Fucking hell. How cares about YouTube views. The song is shit.

06-10-2018, 01:09 PM	#625
brothahi4L Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,714	Lol. Nirvana or foo fighter songs have much more clicks than sp. Are they better? No its subjective. Solara and the reunion got promoted heavily- thats why a shitty song has 230000 clicks by now

06-10-2018, 01:10 PM	#626
brothahi4L Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,714	The drumming annoys me after my 3rd listen

06-10-2018, 02:03 PM	#627
jakobtheliar Demi-God Location: a house in new orleans Posts: 352	Why do the drums sound like this???why is this bully's preference? Compress and EQ them until they don't sound real. There's nearly no cymbals. It sounds like oash blech and there is no riff. It's 3 chords. And the ending is like Starz 2: diet Starz with no impressive drum solo.

06-10-2018, 02:04 PM	#628
jakobtheliar Demi-God Location: a house in new orleans Posts: 352	PS. I don't think James played on this. That's bully playing every part

06-10-2018, 02:09 PM	#629
Butt Pope Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,115	My friend whose uncle works on the Tonight Show said that instead of Solara they are going to play Where Boys Fear to Tread. Should be cool!