Ma Belle

brillo998 · 10-30-2007, 11:52 AM

So whats the deal here? did billy specifically want zeitgeist to suck? The two best songs from the era (stellar and ma belle) are not on the regular album.

skipgo · 10-30-2007, 11:55 AM

billy's crazy like a fox

skipgo · 10-30-2007, 11:56 AM

refer to the spun soundtrack vs. MSOTS, this is not the first time billy has done such a thing.

SpFission · 10-30-2007, 11:57 AM

he's a masochist.

xezton · 10-30-2007, 12:00 PM

The songs stand on their own very well.

But they wouldn't have necessarily helped the initial album, and may have sounded out of place.

Stella and Ma Belle are a bit more gentle and spacey when compared to the rest of the album.

Not to say the tracklisting is perfect for Zeitgeist....

I'm just saying what Billy was probably thinking.

T&T · 10-30-2007, 12:05 PM

gems only for the real fans?> sounds like a plan any artist would kill for.,

Pizza Club · 10-30-2007, 12:06 PM

Zeitgeist is the best song not on Zeitgeist.

harrow · 10-30-2007, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizza Club

Zeitgeist is the best song not on Zeitgeist.

Agreed.

gwt · 10-30-2007, 01:09 PM

zeitgeist is a very dull song. a turgid and onanistic arcanum.

Corgan Rules · 10-30-2007, 01:47 PM

Wheres the link to Ma Belle?

DeviousJ · 10-30-2007, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corgan Rules

Wheres the link to Ma Belle?

It's called buying the CD and supporting Billy, fucko

Ugly · 10-30-2007, 02:26 PM

what if you don't live in that curse'd nation, United States? Are you simply going to will the song into existence with positive thinking?

xezton · 10-30-2007, 02:29 PM

clowned on you
a harpoon now
bay bitch rue
we quit too soon, aflaks
we quit too soon, aw fuck

there's no place i'd rather pee
there's no face odd rat pussy

joust (joust paints) paints
you.. womb receive me

there are things
for a man's bone to gouge

clowned on you
where is that moon, of ass
how hard a moo now sins

there's no place i'd rather pee
there's no face odd rat pussy

joust (joust paints) paints
you.. womb receive me

cuz you don't bleedy
oh baby plz relax
the night's around my sac
mah' ball is so relaxed
somehow we damned the Mets

to mate this afternoon
you must hold the troop, how long
to mate this afternoon
the moon most sent ya hole

there's no place that i'd, i'd rather pee
there's no place that i'd, i'd rather pee
there's no place that i, i'd rather pee
whip you
i'd rather pee, there's no place, there's no place, that i, i'd rather pee
there's no place that i, i'd rather pee
whip you

hint: you can also replace "i'd rather pee" with "i've had whoopee"

markpregen · 10-30-2007, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corgan Rules

Wheres the link to Ma Belle?

http://forums.netphoria.org/showpost...&postcount=805

JJNelson · 10-30-2007, 02:41 PM

Is the DVD any good? I'm still debating on whether or not to buy it.

sh sh shayne · 10-30-2007, 02:42 PM

the dvd is basically Zeitgiet track by track again.

it's only 20 mins long.

I enjoyed it though

jczeroman · 10-30-2007, 02:46 PM

It is really good.

I can see the point of not putting it on Zeitgiest along with the others for continuity. But man, If we had an album of this... wow.

Fattening Ass · 10-30-2007, 02:49 PM

oh man this song is so good.

drossbullet · 10-30-2007, 02:49 PM

ma belle actually has soul in it...

unlike most of the songs on zitgeist, this is one of the few songs that billy lets his voice shed emotion.

davin · 10-30-2007, 02:51 PM

man, what a crock. if ma belle and stellar were on the album they would be flamed.

and if 7 shades was a bonus track people would complain and say it was the best.

fickle bitches.

xezton · 10-30-2007, 02:52 PM

Agreed (w/ davin)

I think sometimes, especially with SP, the "non-album" songs are viewed as "good" because they are rare, and therefore if you like them, that makes you unique, lol.

That's why so many people like Aeroplane Flies High. I hate that song. (although I'd never say that on here.. OH SHI--

)

Although I do think that if Ma Belle were on the album somewhere, it wouldn't have been ripped on as much as some of the other songs.

But like I said, it wouldn't really fit on Zeitgeist anyway.

Gossamer · 10-30-2007, 02:54 PM

Ma Belle sounds like a cross between Zwan and TFE.

Billy really needs to bury his vocals deeper in the mix for the next album to be good.
He still writes great songs, but his vox are just not the same anymore.

sh sh shayne · 10-30-2007, 03:03 PM

Theirs no place he'd rather be, without you.

WalkingStrayz · 10-30-2007, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davin

man, what a crock. if ma belle and stellar were on the album they would be flamed.

and if 7 shades was a bonus track people would complain and say it was the best.

fickle bitches.

I couldn't agree more.

JJNelson · 10-30-2007, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Ma Belle sounds like a cross between Zwan and TFE.

Billy really needs to bury his vocals deeper in the mix for the next album to be good.
He still writes great songs, but his vox are just not the same anymore.

Agreed. The Ma Belle chorus vocals are really harsh. It's not a bad song, but it seems like they didn't spend a whole lot of time on this one (songwriting or production).

Twineball · 10-30-2007, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh sh shayne

the dvd is basically Zeitgiet track by track again.

it's only 20 mins long.

I enjoyed it though

Really? The OS said it was "full length". I was going to buy it, but if it's just track by track, I've seen it.

sh sh shayne · 10-30-2007, 03:06 PM

I like ma belle but it doesnt' fit on the giest, thus it's a b side.

Im digging the fuck out of the riff though.

sh sh shayne · 10-30-2007, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twineball

Really? The OS said it was "full length". I was going to buy it, but if it's just track by track, I've seen it.

It's not exactly track by track. theirs some new stuff in it like takling abou the gear and stuff. But it has the part where billy goes off on jimmys nutts abou teh us drum.

I did like the dvd i'd reccomend it for 10 bucks.

Do remember that it's approx 20 min. It has the tranetoola vid and the ttw vid as well.

Not bad for 10. 13.99 though

markpregen · 10-30-2007, 03:08 PM

New Art Rioter · 10-30-2007, 03:08 PM

Yeah, it sounds a little more tossed off. In this case however, this is definitely a good thing. This song is great, more touching than a lot of the other more bombastic Zeitgeist material

10-30-2007, 11:52 AM	#1
brillo998 Ownz Location: columbus Posts: 838	Ma Belle So whats the deal here? did billy specifically want zeitgeist to suck? The two best songs from the era (stellar and ma belle) are not on the regular album.

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10-30-2007, 11:55 AM	#2
skipgo Minion of Satan Location: i'm a horrible human being Posts: 9,141	billy's crazy like a fox

10-30-2007, 11:56 AM	#3
skipgo Minion of Satan Location: i'm a horrible human being Posts: 9,141	refer to the spun soundtrack vs. MSOTS, this is not the first time billy has done such a thing.

10-30-2007, 11:57 AM	#4
SpFission Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,999	he's a masochist.

10-30-2007, 12:00 PM	#5
xezton Ownz Posts: 969	The songs stand on their own very well. But they wouldn't have necessarily helped the initial album, and may have sounded out of place. Stella and Ma Belle are a bit more gentle and spacey when compared to the rest of the album. Not to say the tracklisting is perfect for Zeitgeist.... I'm just saying what Billy was probably thinking.

10-30-2007, 12:05 PM	#6
T&T Socialphobic Location: montreal Posts: 11,676	gems only for the real fans?> sounds like a plan any artist would kill for.,

10-30-2007, 12:06 PM	#7
Pizza Club Apocalyptic Poster Location: you sound like a casual fan. Posts: 3,458	Zeitgeist is the best song not on Zeitgeist.

10-30-2007, 01:09 PM	#9
gwt Pledge Posts: 52	zeitgeist is a very dull song. a turgid and onanistic arcanum.

10-30-2007, 01:47 PM	#10
Corgan Rules Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,019	Wheres the link to Ma Belle?

10-30-2007, 02:29 PM	#13
xezton Ownz Posts: 969	clowned on you a harpoon now bay bitch rue we quit too soon, aflaks we quit too soon, aw fuck there's no place i'd rather pee there's no face odd rat pussy joust (joust paints) paints you.. womb receive me there are things for a man's bone to gouge clowned on you where is that moon, of ass how hard a moo now sins there's no place i'd rather pee there's no face odd rat pussy joust (joust paints) paints you.. womb receive me cuz you don't bleedy oh baby plz relax the night's around my sac mah' ball is so relaxed somehow we damned the Mets to mate this afternoon you must hold the troop, how long to mate this afternoon the moon most sent ya hole there's no place that i'd, i'd rather pee there's no place that i'd, i'd rather pee there's no place that i, i'd rather pee whip you i'd rather pee, there's no place, there's no place, that i, i'd rather pee there's no place that i, i'd rather pee whip you hint: you can also replace "i'd rather pee" with "i've had whoopee"

10-30-2007, 02:41 PM	#15
JJNelson Pledge Location: Portland Posts: 180	Is the DVD any good? I'm still debating on whether or not to buy it.

10-30-2007, 02:42 PM	#16
sh sh shayne Ownz Posts: 919	the dvd is basically Zeitgiet track by track again. it's only 20 mins long. I enjoyed it though

10-30-2007, 02:46 PM	#17
jczeroman Registered User Location: In my house. Posts: 14,464	It is really good. I can see the point of not putting it on Zeitgiest along with the others for continuity. But man, If we had an album of this... wow.

10-30-2007, 02:49 PM	#18
Fattening Ass Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Planet Nintendu 64 Posts: 30,819	oh man this song is so good.

10-30-2007, 02:49 PM	#19
drossbullet to make this happen... Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 285	ma belle actually has soul in it... unlike most of the songs on zitgeist, this is one of the few songs that billy lets his voice shed emotion.

10-30-2007, 02:51 PM	#20
davin Physiopathic Paralysis Location: Carcosa Posts: 10,701	man, what a crock. if ma belle and stellar were on the album they would be flamed. and if 7 shades was a bonus track people would complain and say it was the best. fickle bitches.

10-30-2007, 02:52 PM	#21
xezton Ownz Posts: 969	Agreed (w/ davin) I think sometimes, especially with SP, the "non-album" songs are viewed as "good" because they are rare, and therefore if you like them, that makes you unique, lol. That's why so many people like Aeroplane Flies High. I hate that song. (although I'd never say that on here.. OH SHI-- ) Although I do think that if Ma Belle were on the album somewhere, it wouldn't have been ripped on as much as some of the other songs. But like I said, it wouldn't really fit on Zeitgeist anyway.

10-30-2007, 02:54 PM	#22
Gossamer Apocalyptic Poster Location: We got it like three quarters of the way in whilst on vacation last week. Minor success. Unfortunately she is leaving for England in a couple of days. Posts: 3,832	Ma Belle sounds like a cross between Zwan and TFE. Billy really needs to bury his vocals deeper in the mix for the next album to be good. He still writes great songs, but his vox are just not the same anymore.

10-30-2007, 03:03 PM	#23
sh sh shayne Ownz Posts: 919	Theirs no place he'd rather be, without you.

10-30-2007, 03:06 PM	#27
sh sh shayne Ownz Posts: 919	I like ma belle but it doesnt' fit on the giest, thus it's a b side. Im digging the fuck out of the riff though.

10-30-2007, 03:08 PM	#30
New Art Rioter Apocalyptic Poster Location: vortex of lost souls Posts: 1,969	Yeah, it sounds a little more tossed off. In this case however, this is definitely a good thing. This song is great, more touching than a lot of the other more bombastic Zeitgeist material