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Old 02-22-2008, 02:11 AM   #1
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Default whoa, I just put on TFE and I actually like it

what the fuck is wrong with me

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:17 AM   #2
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music before it's time is difficult to appreciate. Even within a string theory.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:22 AM   #3
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I haven't listened to this in years and I can't believe how much I am enjoying it right now.

It almost doesn't make sense.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:23 AM   #4
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All things change.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:24 AM   #5
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I think Mechanical Animals will be viewed in a similar light. Though, I believe it will take much longer to fully appreciate, mostly based upon lyrical content. The idea of album's being better understood over long periods of time is a great extension of the "concept album".

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:26 AM   #6
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Get over it, Mechanical Animals is not that good. "Good" isn't all that. But it is good. That's it.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:27 AM   #7
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i am in the same boat. i have been listening to tfe for the past 2 months and really enjoy it now

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:28 AM   #8
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I think MACHINA/the machines of god, will be viewed in a similar light. Though, I believe it will take much longer to fully appreciate, mostly based upon lyrical content. The idea of album's being better understood over long periods of time is a great extension of the "concept album".
There, I fixed your statement.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:29 AM   #9
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Yes, machina does a fantastic job dealing with the idea of post humans.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:30 AM   #10
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.... going to dig out TFE cd... "where is that little bastard? Dusts it off, blows on it... good as new!"

Will listen on the road tomorrow morning. Haven't listened to it in a couple years!

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:31 AM   #11
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Yes, machina does a fantastic job dealing with the idea of post humans.
Save that clip!

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:36 AM   #12
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I love the beginning of Now (and Then).


Zeitgeist needed more cool sounds like this.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:46 AM   #13
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TFE will go platinum when the cubs win

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:49 AM   #14
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neither of these things will happen.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:51 AM   #15
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I love CameraEye

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:57 AM   #16
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I love CameraEye
Arguably the best song his written post-Machina era.

listen, listen
this is the mark i cannot place
this is the wish i dare not leave
time uncovers what is keeping still
i unaware move against my will

simon says, pass on by
passions wane, stragglers weep
hungers fight for the camera eye

hold me so
i'll never let you go
stay with me for a while
while i sleep

mamma squeeze
grace my spine
walk on through the camera eye

listen, listen
this is the name i cannot speak
this is the flame i dare not douse
here things are
we'll never get that far
close enough to die a time or two or three

stretch my skin
restless gods
maybe turn my heart of hearts
deposit change in the camera eye

who needs pain to survive?
i need pain to change my life
in gentle myths and turning leaves we all
come to bury truth


honey choose my wet dream
a naked soul just has to grieve
if i bleed, the camera cries
no one doubts the camera eye

move fast forward through the camera eye
move fast forward through the camera eye
the camera eye
the camera eye

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:06 AM   #17
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i've always liked TFE

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:09 AM   #18
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I don't understand why everyone hated TFE to begin with.
It's better than the Zwan pop rock stuff. Lyrically it went into the introspective/light gloom lyrics he does so well, musically it co-opted all the synth pop stuff he likes so much.

It's much more adventurous than anything else he's done since Machina.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:31 AM   #19
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Here we go with all the "I've always liked TFE" "I said it was good back then" "TFE is genius" - threads about how you all were so "right" when TFE came out.

Admit it, when TFE came out most of us were like, "CamereEye is good, A100 very cool, Mina Loy is good, Walking Shade?!?! why was that the single? The rest, I don't get or I don't like"

It was such a departure, even from Adore; plus, the songs seem to be better than they are actually portrayed on the record. A lot of people said, "if Mina Loy was presented as a rock song it would be great!" And so on...

Hindsight is 20/20. Just enjoy the album for what it is (except "I'm Ready... don't listen to that, it should be black listed).

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 04:34 AM   #20
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Everyone should start shouting for him to play TFE songs at SP concerts

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 04:47 AM   #21
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what the fuck is wrong with me
you have become gay. there's nothing wrong with that.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 04:50 AM   #22
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you have become gay. there's nothing wrong with that.
Bram forgot to ask you if you touch yourself at night

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 04:51 AM   #23
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how's the foot of your turtle?

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 04:55 AM   #24
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tfe>>>>>>>>>>zg

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:48 AM   #25
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ah, tfe is close to vindication. excellent

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:53 AM   #26
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TheFutureEmbrace. Good album that will get better with time. I was at the Sydney acoustic show and it brought out the beauty of those songs in a thousand new ways. Great memories.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:22 AM   #27
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I think what killed TFE was the live shows...much as they satisfied visually, it's hard to make a mainly electronic band "work" live...it comes across as very cold and clinical. With a live rhythm section, and the guitar presented in the "traditional" manner of having amps and pedals all together on stage, rather than controlled by a pre-programed laptop, it would have really come alive.

I was really looking forward to the London Forum show, but being in the front row, all I could hear was the pick hitting the strings, as everything was being sent through the speakers. Further back, or on the soundboard, I expect it sounded great.

If the current lineup were to play TFE songs, it would sound awesome.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:31 AM   #28
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for what its worth i really enjoyed the forum show, though i hadn't heard the album and didn't know the songs bar walking shade (which i remember really kicked ass)

i really enjoyed the visual spectacle, you make a valid point about electronic acts looking very motionless and clinical but it was more exciting than a show by virtually any other electronica act i can think of

i wonder what they've done with the cool tentacle drums and keyboards now?

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 07:53 AM   #29
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The album was shit, the live shows were shit. end of story.

 
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Old 02-22-2008, 08:45 AM   #30
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The album was shit, the live shows were shit. end of story.
-your face is shit
-your brain is shit
-your family's shit
-your home is shit
-your life is shit
-your face is still shit
-your shit is shit

END OF STORY

 
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