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Old 05-12-2008, 12:29 AM   #1
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Default Is "This Time" about Courtney Love?

This time I need to know
I really must be told
If it's over
It's up to you uou know
The things you want to hold
Are in pieces
Crashing down
Crashing down again
Crashing down
Crashing down my freinds
I've got to move it on
I've got to sing my song
While I still can
Dispatch the last alarms
Hand out the last few charms
There's no surprises
Only love
Only love can win
Crashing down
Crashing down again
Only love
Yeah only love will win
Crashing down
Crashing down again
This time I need to know
I really must be told
That it's over
I've lived my life alone
My every step foretold
To never linger
And yet it haunts me so
What are we letting go
Our spell is broken
Crashing down
Crashing down my friends
Crashing down
Crashing down again
Only love
Yeah only love will
Be enough
Yeah only love will win
For every chemical
You trade a piece of your soul

With no return
And who you think you know
Doesn't know you at all
Their drain is needless
Someday we'll wave hello
And wish we'd never waved goodbye
To this romance
We'll drink up every line
And shoot up every word

Till there's no more
Crashing down
Crashing down my friends
Only love
Only love can win
So cry these tears we'll cry as all
We've held so long to fall apart
As the curtain falls we bid you all goodnight

Sounds like it to me.

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:31 AM   #2
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its about june, duh.

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:49 AM   #3
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CHEMICALS AND SHOOTING UP OMGZ C-LOVE DID DRUKQS TOO MACHINA MYSTERY==SOLVED LOLLERSKATES *HUGS*

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:52 AM   #4
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false but its fun to pretend

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:23 AM   #5
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Love on MCIS is about courtney....

Quote:
To my mistakes, to my mistakes of cowardice
She shimmy shakes, the jimmy jakes of consequence
Born of the airs and dues, my airs of madness do declare
That it's ok, it's courtney
It's what you wanted to see, it's who you wanted to be
For what you needed to need, she'll make it up
Courtney, it's who you know

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:26 AM   #6
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Love on MCIS is about courtney....
gay.

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:35 AM   #7
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It was supposed to be the last pumpkins song. It was the last song written for the Machinas. It's a song to the band, in disguise of a love song, or loss of love song.

"for every chemical you trade a piece of your soul with no return" could apply to d'arcy being a "mean spirited" drug addict.

"who you think you know doesn't know you at all. their drain is needless" could apply to james.

"someday we'll wave hello and wish we never waved goodbye to this romance" would apply to jimmy

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:49 AM   #8
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Crashing down
Crashing down my friends
Only love
Only love can win
So cry these tears we'll cry as all
We've held so long to fall apart
As the curtain falls we bid you all goodnight

yup, pretty much is about the band- at least i've always thought so

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:37 AM   #9
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CHEMICALS AND SHOOTING UP OMGZ C-LOVE DID DRUKQS TOO MACHINA MYSTERY==SOLVED LOLLERSKATES *HUGS*
JESUS TAP DANCING CHRIST

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:52 AM   #10
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I always thought the song applied to D'arcy the most, but I think that ultimately, like others have suggested, it's about the break up of the band as a whole.

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 07:52 AM   #11
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It was supposed to be the last pumpkins song. It was the last song written for the Machinas. It's a song to the band, in disguise of a love song, or loss of love song.

"for every chemical you trade a piece of your soul with no return" could apply to d'arcy being a "mean spirited" drug addict.

"who you think you know doesn't know you at all. their drain is needless" could apply to james.

"someday we'll wave hello and wish we never waved goodbye to this romance" would apply to jimmy
i agree

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:07 AM   #12
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I thought AoI was the last song written

Or was this some wacky loophole where it was written first but recorded last or somesuch

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:43 AM   #13
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yeah, recorded last sounds right.

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:50 AM   #14
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I thought AoI was the last song written

Or was this some wacky loophole where it was written first but recorded last or somesuch
It was written a few days before the Bridge School Benefit shows. I don't have my Machina booklet, so I don't remember how long they recorded it.

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:00 AM   #15
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I always understood it that AoI was the last song written for Machina as well. "This Time" is definitely about the band. I seem to remember reading or hearing Billy mention it, but then I could be dreaming that up. My memory sucks.

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:26 AM   #16
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the end is in the middle
don't you guys know anything about the mystery?

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:27 AM   #17
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let's say This Time was the last song written during the main recording sessions in Chicago, with Age Of Innocence being written at the last minute and recorded in LA, making it the really last song.

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:32 AM   #18
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that only applies to the first MACHINA though. the timeline for some of the MACHINA II songs is unclear as far as i know.

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:34 AM   #19
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not that i know anything.

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:45 AM   #20
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you know more than most

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:45 AM   #21
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not that they know anything, either

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:31 PM   #22
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I always thought Shame was about her.

 
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:42 PM   #23
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K is potassium

 
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:32 AM   #24
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for every chemical? i always thought that line was every come and go... fuck

 
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:24 PM   #25
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It's not.

But That's the Way (My Love Is) definitely is about her.

LOVE. Courtney LOVE. Get it?

 
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:06 PM   #26
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i think it's about d'arcy

 
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:02 PM   #27
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Uh no it's about the band ending.

So this is what happens when you ponder the meaning of SP songs too much...

 
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:23 PM   #28
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speaking of courtney, i just read this article which claims her new album is being put on hold. you know, the one billy stayed in her house to help with.

pretty funny that this, the shirley manson one, and MADM's most recent all ran into trouble with getting released....poor billy was involved on some level with all of them.

 
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:53 PM   #29
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billy is a jinx. don't let him work on your projects. let this be a warning to you all!

 
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:54 PM   #30
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one of the best machina songs

 
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