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Old 12-07-2020, 09:15 AM   #61
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Last Billy release I bought was Zwan

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 11:35 AM   #62
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i bought the SD reissue and concert tickets. nothing else

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 03:24 PM   #63
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[quote=brothahi4L;4569250]I do not buy any pumpkins or wpc anymore. They don't deserve it....
Just stream the shit or get it from youtube in 192 k.....[/QUOTE

Yesterday you liked Cyr. Make up your god damn mind, Borat.

Please.

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:10 PM   #64
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I do not buy any pumpkins or wpc anymore. They don't deserve it....
Just stream the shit or get it from youtube in 192 k.....[/QUOTE

Yesterday you liked Cyr. Make up your god damn mind, Borat.

Please.
How did you fuck up the quote feature? Shame.

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:11 PM   #65
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You fucked it up too, fool!


AHAHAHAHAHA.

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:40 PM   #66
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brothah is the only one i've ever seen fuck up the quote feature in such a way, but this time it was "Green Eyes" quoting (or rather, attempting to quote) brothah...

Green Eyes = broohaha???

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 05:57 PM   #67
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Charted at 86. Amazing.

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 06:09 PM   #68
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Do you think this will only encourage him? Or is he so deluded that #86 will be an insult?

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 06:17 PM   #69
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well at least they got in higher than phish

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 06:18 PM   #70
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Amazingly disappointing.

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 07:07 PM   #71
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Will he blame the industry? The band? The fans?

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 07:09 PM   #72
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Jack Bates?

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 08:30 PM   #73
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It makes sense.. there haven't been a lot of new releases in recent weeks and Sumerian promoted the shit out of Cyr and Billy.. doesn't mean it's a good album tho..

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 09:03 PM   #74
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it wouldn't be a good record at #1

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 09:16 PM   #75
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86? Holy shit that’s incredible. Best news all day. Go fuck yourself Billy. Apparently it wasn’t “what the kids are listening to” hahahahahaha eat shit bro

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 09:20 PM   #76
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Old 12-07-2020, 09:36 PM   #77
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Bro went from 54 to 85 enjoy your irrelevancy for ruining my childhood band

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 09:51 PM   #78
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What? Why would you say such mean things about Yoda???



 
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Old 12-07-2020, 10:56 PM   #79
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what's that even mean, 54 to 85

is that like the second coming of 24 on 33 NOW or whatever?

 
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Old 12-07-2020, 11:03 PM   #80
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I don't know man. All I know is Yoda, baby or aged, is off limits.



LEAVE YODA ALONE

 
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Old 12-08-2020, 12:17 AM   #81
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what's that even mean, 54 to 85

is that like the second coming of 24 on 33 NOW or whatever?
Shiny charted at 54 or some shit and Seir charted in the 80s lol

 
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Old 12-08-2020, 05:03 AM   #82
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But it's higher than TEN or NEVERMIND.

 
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Old 12-08-2020, 05:34 AM   #83
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Maybe he’ll pause and realise that just because he can recognise or recreate modern sounding production techniques, doesn’t mean he should or that’s what any audience wants from him. Lol no of course not.

I’m very cautious about these new Machina mixes, where he seems to be battling with an urge to “loud-at-any-volume, vocals-on-top” the thing.

 
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Old 12-08-2020, 05:36 AM   #84
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Real Love... but mixed like a Pitbull track.

 
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Old 12-08-2020, 05:54 AM   #85
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Billy got 86ed.

 
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Old 12-08-2020, 07:13 AM   #86
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He'll blame it on streaming etc, maybe will blame the label at some later point. But they did a good job marketing it, with the website, and the countdown, though I do think they released too many songs in advance - should've only been 3 or 4, so people would actually want to buy the album then.

But having ten songs, knowing the whole thing sounded the same, took away the mystery. Remember the days of buying a CD and reading the song titles wondering "what's that going to sound like??"

I'm certain that if he had actually made a retro Pumpkins album, guitars to the fore etc, it would've done better. He'll say that he did that on Oceania and it wasn't what people wanted, but it did chart higher and most fans agree it's a decent album. It didn't break big though as it was caught up in the fall out of the original band break up, and it was just Billy. If they had released Oceania with James and Jimmy, then it would've been received better.

Where to now for the band?

Answer: just make a goddamn guitar album. Let Jimmy drum the hell out of it. Lay down some guitar solos. Have at least one long song. A few dreamy passages. Sing softer. DONE.

 
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Old 12-08-2020, 07:18 AM   #87
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sorry if this is untrue -- has he talked about real love yet? i'm so curious about the track sheet on that. i'm still not sure what jimmy's doing - it almost sounds like 16ths on the hihat during the verses

 
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Old 12-08-2020, 07:25 AM   #88
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Where to now for the band?

Answer: just make a goddamn guitar album. Let Jimmy drum the hell out of it. Lay down some guitar solos. Have at least one long song. A few dreamy passages. Sing softer. DONE.
You basically described Zeitgeist and it was a bomb.

I think it's time to aknowledge the golden age of SP was maybe a product of sheer spontaneity, youthful brilliance and the perfect context in place and time for those songs.

The moment he started doing things according to his own "taste" well... it proved to be a very poor one, imo.

 
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:26 AM   #89
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You basically described Zeitgeist and it was a bomb.

I think it's time to aknowledge the golden age of SP was maybe a product of sheer spontaneity, youthful brilliance and the perfect context in place and time for those songs.

The moment he started doing things according to his own "taste" well... it proved to be a very poor one, imo.
He fixes the vocals and it’ll be popular. People would’ve loved Z if he sang normally.

 
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:48 AM   #90
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He fixes the vocals and it’ll be popular. People would’ve loved Z if he sang normally.
um.... no

 
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