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Old 11-23-2020, 05:53 PM   #1381
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should we start a "When will trump be indicted" thread

 
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Old 11-23-2020, 08:32 PM   #1382
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My guess is that he won't be indicted on any of the federal criminal investigations, regardless of whether there's evidence of wrongdoing. Even though the Justice Department's policy of not indicting sitting presidents will no longer protect him, I think that Biden will quietly encourage them not to move forward purely because of optics. Former presidents being imprisoned often happens in authoritarian states where leaders seek to punish their political opponents, and even if Trump is guilty, Biden won't want to create the image that he's using the executive branch to exact retribution on Trump. Openly admitting the corruption of the previous president would also embarrass the government on the world stage and undermine the image they wish to project.

As for the state-level investigations, they probably aren't going to be held back by such concerns. The case being pursued by Manhattan's DA must be real spicy, considering all the subpoenas and the fact that they've been willing to wait out Trump's term. And then there's several non-criminal civil suits for defamation, many of them related to rape allegations against Trump.

As so many of the leads for the fraud, laundering, and tax evasion cases sprung out of the Mueller investigation, I have to wonder if they would have been investigated at all had Trump never been president. Winning may have been the worst thing to ever happen to him.

 
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Old 11-23-2020, 08:34 PM   #1383
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LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!

 
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Old 11-24-2020, 09:28 AM   #1384
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Old 11-24-2020, 06:12 PM   #1385
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On top of the usual reasons for going easy on former presidents, a full investigation at the federal level would only hamstring any current administration as countless figures across the entire political spectrum become tied up in what would make the Mueller investigation look like a holiday town traffic report.

 
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Old 11-24-2020, 07:57 PM   #1386
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I think that if there's criminal wrong doing within an agency, the Feds should investigate and prosecute. Whether they go after Trump is another story. Federal appointees and employees aren't protected if the President gives them an order to break the law.

 
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Old 11-25-2020, 05:49 PM   #1387
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True. And if they are convicted, having that occur after Trump's term will mean that he won't be able to pardon them, like he's done with Flynn-Flam.

"Barr behind bars" has a nice ring to it.

 
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Old 11-25-2020, 05:52 PM   #1388
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He'd be disBarred, too, the bulldog-faced piece of shit.

 
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:14 PM   #1389
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He'd be disBarred, too, the bulldog-faced piece of shit.

 
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Old 11-25-2020, 09:15 PM   #1390
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He'd be disBarred, too, the bulldog-faced piece of shit.
lol he totally is

 
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Old 11-25-2020, 09:54 PM   #1391
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is this the thread for addressing blowhards?

 
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Old 11-25-2020, 09:54 PM   #1392
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have I got a message for you, reprise!

 
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Old 11-29-2020, 11:16 PM   #1393
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Word on the street is Biden's foot was just diagnosed with Alzheimer's. It's beginning.

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 08:45 AM   #1394
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Sleepy Joe!

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 09:12 PM   #1395
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Even Trump's lapdog is acknowledging that Trump lost fair and square.
https://apnews.com/article/election-...&utm_medium=AP

 
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Old 12-01-2020, 10:01 PM   #1396
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Note that he entrenched the investigation of the Russian investigation, establishing a Special Counsel a la Robert Mueller at about the same time as making those less Trump-friendly statements, ensuring that the DNC election meddling narrative will extend into Biden's term regardless.

 
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:26 AM   #1397
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A court ruling made public Tuesday indicates that federal prosecutors have been pursuing an investigation into potential bribery in connection with an effort to secure a pardon from President Donald Trump, although details of the inquiry remain murky.

 
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Old 12-02-2020, 10:25 PM   #1398
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Old 12-02-2020, 10:26 PM   #1399
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Flynn and others are calling for Trump to do a dictatorship and use the military to "suspend" the constitution

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 01:37 AM   #1400
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I don't think enough Americans believe Trump's lives for there to truly be anything approaching a "civil war," but I think that we will definitely see instances of political violence motivated by support for Trump in the coming months.

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 01:38 AM   #1401
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Some asshole is going to run over a crowd of people in his car or shoot up a pizzeria again, you just know it.

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 09:36 AM   #1402
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Weren’t there the mail bombs at one point, too

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 09:39 AM   #1403
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An expert from the Trump team in Michigan giving testimony on voter "fraud". The State rep she is arguing with is a right wing pro trump republican, which makes this even more bizarre.


 
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Old 12-03-2020, 09:40 AM   #1404
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Cesar Sayoc. Pled guilty to 65 felonies. Mailed pipe bombs intended for Obama, Biden, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris (and other lawmakers), CNN, Robert Deniro, etc.

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 09:42 AM   #1405
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What I am afraid of now is in 4 or 8 years a competent fascist will use the Trump playbook to overturn a general election loss. These republicans in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, etc. are asking for some reason and cover before they can get on the crazy train to the dictatorship. And Giuliani keeps putting nutjobs and drunks in front of the camera instead of presenting a compelling set of talking points for local right wingers to use.

We are one moderately competent republican away from having our own Putin

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 04:56 PM   #1406
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What I am afraid of now is in 4 or 8 years a competent fascist will use the Trump playbook to overturn a general election loss. These republicans in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, etc. are asking for some reason and cover before they can get on the crazy train to the dictatorship. And Giuliani keeps putting nutjobs and drunks in front of the camera instead of presenting a compelling set of talking points for local right wingers to use.

We are one moderately competent republican away from having our own Putin
Yep. People to be wary of who could fit this bill: Josh Hawley, Tucker Carlson or Tom Cotton.

Hopefully AOC will run in 2024, she’d cream any of those clowns.

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 06:24 PM   #1407
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Yep. People to be wary of who could fit this bill: Josh Hawley, Tucker Carlson or Tom Cotton.

Hopefully AOC will run in 2024, she’d cream any of those clowns.
I wouldn't bet on that.

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 06:36 PM   #1408
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Yeah, let's just engage the dumbest person in the thread on that one same thought again.

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 06:52 PM   #1409
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But I thought that the only way to get a progressive DNC candidate was if Trump won a second term and made everybody so mad that conservatives and centrists stop existing

 
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Old 12-03-2020, 06:53 PM   #1410
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Too bad Trump didn't win. That means we will have neoliberalism and wars for ever

 
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