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Old 10-24-2020, 02:44 PM   #61
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This is the guy who thought Monte would serve as an adequate free publicist who would obviate the need to hire actual social-media people.

He let a guy who can't spell be his primary contact with his fans and the press in order to save a few bucks.

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:00 PM   #62
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Why are these shitty three minute song albums even a trilogy? What is it with CRØGĂN and turning everything into a faux theme?

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:00 PM   #63
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They just make it so difficult. Like, I'm not even that critical. I'm happy to sit back and enjoy Cyr regardless of if its Siamese Dream, but all this stuff about playing characters, provoking people, whatever the hell transmutation is, I just can't stand it. Why can't they just be cool and tell some funny stories about recording the album. They come across extremely arrogant

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:02 PM   #64
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I like Jimmy, but deliniation, languaging, transmutation, alchemy, fucking hell is he desperately trying to sound like he has something relevant to say. So Jimmy, tell me about the languaging on Shiny and Cyr.
He’s been like that for a while. Back when he was doing his marketing for that video concert platform that he was the CEO of. He sounded like some Tony Robbins brainwashed motivational speaker, “you’ve got to mortgage your blah blah and leverage your blah blah blah”. Jimmy is a good guy but he seems a bit permafried.

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:06 PM   #65
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Jimmy is becoming equally as annoying at Bill. His 5 minute run as a Small Tech CEO ruined his perception of what people are interested to hear from people.

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:07 PM   #66
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They just make it so difficult. Like, I'm not even that critical. I'm happy to sit back and enjoy Cyr regardless of if its Siamese Dream, but all this stuff about playing characters, provoking people, whatever the hell transmutation is, I just can't stand it. Why can't they just be cool and tell some funny stories about recording the album. They come across extremely arrogant
And extremely pretentious.

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:13 PM   #67
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And extremely pretentious.
Yep, no about it.

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:14 PM   #68
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And extremely pretentious.
and a bunch of old washed up guys in their 50s who were cool and relatable in the 1990s but not anymore

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:17 PM   #69
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and a bunch of old washed up guys in their 50s who were cool and relatable in the 1990s but not anymore
Totally True

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:19 PM   #70
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Billy should go back to delivering pizzas for a while so he can get his head right

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 04:08 PM   #71
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Chamberlin has been into the New Age shit for a while now. Probably common amongst ex-addicts who attribute their recovery to a higher power or becoming "spiritually in tune" with what the universe is telling them and their chakras or whatever.

He's just never come across as annoying as Corgan is about it, because he isn't smarmily preaching about positivity and healing and vibrations while simultaneously being a negative, grudge-bearing, thin-skinned asshole. It comes across as far less disingenuous when he does it because Chamberlin genuinely comes across as a nice guy.

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 04:15 PM   #72
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+++++++++++

jimmy was able to stay clean cause he's a driven, meticulous person. the whole NA faux-spiritual stuff creeps me the fuck out

he's nowhere the level of malignant like corgan. rather, he isn't malignant. he's just...into shit that's...eugh

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 04:16 PM   #73
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Jimmy is becoming equally as annoying at Bill. His 5 minute run as a Small Tech CEO ruined his perception of what people are interested to hear from people.
lollll

he sort of gives the same interview every time. bill is fucking insane and mean but at least it's interesting. it's biden vs trump

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 04:45 PM   #74
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Is Jimmy in a cult?

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 04:50 PM   #75
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james probably thinks they're both weird as fuck but he does the bare minimum to get that sweet paycheck

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 06:07 PM   #76
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Yeah, definitely seems like an odd situation for James.

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 06:16 PM   #77
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you need an excel sheet for all that was wrong with this interview. Just a few additional thoughts

-Billy said something like you need to maintain huge levels of success to get where they are now, but we all know that only reason why SP is still profitable because of music that was made at least 25 years ago.

-Billy patting himself on the back for getting to "the top" with Mellon Collie and acting like they were so amazingly successful that there was no where to go. Like, dude, you can always get better and its hypocritical to judge anyone off of popularity and sales. You only complained about Mariah Carey and Celine Dion a million times.

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Old 10-24-2020, 06:38 PM   #78
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you need an excel sheet for all that was wrong with this interview. Just a few additional thoughts

-Billy said something like you need to maintain huge levels of success to get where they are now, but we all know that only reason why SP is still profitable because of music that was made at least 25 years ago.

-Billy patting himself on the back for getting to "the top" with Mellon Collie and acting like they were so amazingly successful that there was no where to go. Like, dude, you can always get better and its hypocritical to judge anyone off of popularity and sales. You only complained about Mariah Carey and Celine Dion a million times.

-This is totally Billy and his family's business, but I was weirded out when he was talking about the home births with no pharmaceuticals.
Also, Mellon Collie is nowhere near one of the biggest selling albums of all time; even less so when you take into account that. double albums have their sales figures doubled. He's getting fucking good at clutching straws... Cyr is a 62 minute double album and we were as big asThe Beatles.

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 08:10 PM   #79
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Someone on twitter told me SP was just lucky they had a good producer and there were 20 bands like them in Chicago at the time. When I asked them what bands ever sounded like MCIS, they asked if I lived in Chicago at the time and told me to “look it up”. Lol. Every time someone has given me a band that supposedly sounds like SP I don’t hear it. Except Feeder who ripped them off and even so sounded only like a weak version of SD.

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 08:24 PM   #80
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I certainly wouldn't call SP lucky. Their music was legitimately great. There was some luck that they came along at the right time so they could really cash in but that's whatever. SP owes a lot to MBV and probably Ride as well but they were always their own band with their own sound. They just act so whacky now. I was listening to the MCIS radio interviews on YouTube last week and its unbelievable that it's the same people

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 08:28 PM   #81
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Although in retrospect it is very clear how important Vig, Flood, and Moulder were

 
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Old 10-24-2020, 08:30 PM   #82
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Why can't they just be cool and tell some funny stories about recording the album. They come across extremely arrogant
This is p accurate. I'm about 40 minutes in and by FAR the most memorable part so far was the story about throwing the guitar at the amp during An Ode to No One. Just those fun little tidbits about the recording of an album we all love is 24k gold.

 
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I certainly wouldn't call SP lucky. Their music was legitimately great. There was some luck that they came along at the right time so they could really cash in but that's whatever. SP owes a lot to MBV and probably Ride as well but they were always their own band with their own sound. They just act so whacky now. I was listening to the MCIS radio interviews on YouTube last week and its unbelievable that it's the same people
Sure their early sound owes plenty to MBV (and they started out sounding a TON like
The Cure) but I think Billy found something really unique with a lot of the stuff on MCIS.

 
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Sure their early sound owes plenty to MBV (and they started out sounding a TON like
The Cure) but I think Billy found something really unique with a lot of the stuff on MCIS.
Oh yeah, no doubts about that here. SP albums stand completely on their own. Everyone has their influences and that's totally cool.

 
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This is p accurate. I'm about 40 minutes in and by FAR the most memorable part so far was the story about throwing the guitar at the amp during An Ode to No One. Just those fun little tidbits about the recording of an album we all love is 24k gold.
Yeah, that's what everyone wants to hear. Back in 2014, they did an In Utero retrospective with Novoselic and Grohl and it was great to hear them recount their memories of the recording and everything surrounding it.

 
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Oh yeah, no doubts about that here. SP albums stand completely on their own. Everyone has their influences and that's totally cool.
I probably have asked you before, but are you a fan of the band Red Red Meat or just the SP song named after their late bassist Glynis Johnson?

 
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Yeah, that's what everyone wants to hear. Back in 2014, they did an In Utero retrospective with Novoselic and Grohl and it was great to hear them recount their memories of the recording and everything surrounding it.
Do they mention D’Arcy or is Billy still too butthurt to acknowledge her existence?

 
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I probably have asked you before, but are you a fan of the band Red Red Meat or just the SP song named after their late bassist Glynis Johnson?
Fan of the song but actually downloaded a few Red, Red Meat albums this week

 
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Do they mention D’Arcy or is Billy still too butthurt to acknowledge her existence?
She doesn't get mentioned a lot. However, as weird as this interview was it probably improved in terms of D'arcy but kind of in a broad sense. They do make it clear that on MCIS they really wanted to capture the sound of band (assuming this meant D'arcy and James would play more on album, as we know they ended up doing),and they felt that was a key element missing from SD. Billy does say something along the lines of SP couldn't have happened without the all four members. On more of a side note, Jimmy says they used a can of her hairspray, some rusty scissors, and a bottle of Tylenol to make up the rhythm sounds on Cupid de Locke.

 
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At least they’re mentioning her I guess. Not that I think Jimmy has an insane grudge against her but we all know Willy does. I just want to see all 4 of them live even ONE time before I die. I have a while at least being 28. I hope SP all live a while too.


Good call on downloading RRM, I enjoyed their stuff. Nice and bluesy.

 
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