Does The Aeroplane Flies High work as an album

Catherine Wheel · 05-17-2006, 05:43 PM

I made a cd of all the b-sides from The Aeroplane Flies High. I think it's as good as any album they put out. Do you think the Aeroplane b-sides work as a cohesive record?

my cd:

Said Sadly
Ugly
The Boy
Cherry
Believe
Set The Ray To Jerry
God
Mouth Of Babes
Tribute To Johnny
Marquis In Spades
Pennies
Meladori Magpie
Rotten Apples
Jupiter's Lament
Medellia of the Gray Skies
Blank
The Last Song
The Aeroplane Flies High ( Turns Left, Looks Right )
Transformer
The Bells

CrabbMan · 05-17-2006, 06:19 PM

No, I don't think so. TT, BWBW, Zero all work as cohesive EPs, and maybe 1979. . . but you can't just play the tracks back to back and have to all work, not in my opinion. You could maybe pick out an LP's worth of songs that go together, but that's still only a maybe.

tcm · 05-17-2006, 06:35 PM

does the Empire State Building work as a catamaran?

Floppy Nono · 05-17-2006, 06:40 PM

maybe if you rearranged the songs in the way mcis was arranged then i guess it would be a fine album...but in order...who really wants to star an album with a james iha/lady from veruca salt duet where it's hard to tell who's playing the girl and who's playing the asian

Kentaro · 05-17-2006, 11:25 PM

When I got TAFH I consolidated the five CD's onto two CD-R's to keep the originals in good condition and to save space in my CD wallet:

CD1

Bullet with Butterfly Wings
...Said Sadly
You're All I've Got Tonight
Clones (We're All)
A Night Like This
Destination Unknown
Dreaming
1979
Ugly
Believe
Cherry
The Boy
Set the Ray to Jerry
Thirty-three
The Last Song
The Aeroplane Flies High
Transformer
The Bells
My Blue Heaven

CD2
Zero
God
Mouths of Babes
Tribute to Johnny
Marquis in Spades
Pennies
Pastichio Medley
Tonight, Tonight
Meladori Magpie
Rotten Apples
Medellia of the Grey Skies
Jupiter's Lament
Blank
Tonite Reprise

ZEROpumpkins · 05-18-2006, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcm

does the Empire State Building work as a catamaran?

CrabbMan · 05-18-2006, 02:12 AM

Nice try Kentaro, but the fact that you inclooded the Pistichio Medley at all just goes to show you're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
It doesn't work as an album. It works as a boxed set. I generally don't think of myself as a know-it-all, but I think it should be pretty obvious that these songs don't meld. The Pumpkins had probably 80 songs to choose from for MCIS, and they picked 28 that worked quite reasonably well together. . . plenty left for a nice set of EPs, but the MCIS sessions don't work as a quadruple album. Or two doubles. Whatever. . . .this thread should have ended by now. No more posting here!!!

tcm · 05-18-2006, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrabbMan

the MCIS sessions don't work as a quadruple album. Or two doubles.

you're right. but i'm reasonably sure they would work as a sextuple album. or... duodecuple ep?

Kahlo · 05-18-2006, 02:59 AM

Hmm maybe thats what Billy is going to bring out...he has 50 songs...

tcm · 05-18-2006, 03:06 AM

he should package the new duodecuple ep along with the sextuple lp of MCIS. a bundle, you know, at a value.

ZEROpumpkins · 05-18-2006, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcm

you're right. but i'm reasonably sure they would work as a sextuple album. or... duodecuple ep?

I remember that thread! Thnx for digging it up.

Dead · 05-18-2006, 04:03 AM

Mablak · 05-18-2006, 04:31 AM

Does the organization of an album matter when all the songs are awesome? I'll let you decide.

Wait, Dead answered preemptively, sharp as a tack that one.

atombomb · 05-18-2006, 04:56 AM

I arranged all the tracks from the mellon collie era into the following on my ipod:

MCIS (added medellia of the gray skies after porcelina, set the ray to jerry after take me down, rotten apples after in the arms of sleep, meladori magpie after we only come out and tonight reprise at the end) <-- i thought these tracks really fit into the vibe of this album.

MCIS Demos (with vocals) <-- *******s all vocal demos from gravity demos, demo's for D'arcy etc.. *******s methusela

MCIS Demos (instrumentals) <-- *******s instumentals from all the gravity demos and miscellanious stuff like acsendo and 666 audio

Then I arranged the TAFH as follows:

1 God
2 Mouth of Babes
3 Tribute to Johnny
4 Marquis in Spades
5 Pennies
6 Transformer
7 Ugly
8 The Boy
9 Cherry
10 TAFH
11 Believe
12 The Last song

I don't view these as part of the album but are tagged on the end:

13 ...Said sadly
13 Blank
14 Jupiters Lament
15 The Bells

finally the covers:

16 Destination Unknown
17 Clones
18 You're all i've got tonight
19 Dreaming
20 A night like this
21 Sad Peter Pan
22 My Blue Heaven
23 Christmas time
24 Pistachio medley

Chambertrain · 05-18-2006, 08:34 AM

They are B-Sides for a reason. Not saying that there not good enough for a Album, but it all doesnt blend. Plus, singles are cheaper.

Sonic Johnny · 05-18-2006, 09:00 AM

Tribute To Johnny
Transformer
The Boy
You're All I've Got Tonight
Marquis In Spades
Blank
A Night Like This
Jupiter's Lament
Ugly
The Bells
Cherry
Rotten Apples
Clones
Mouth Of Babes
Believe
Pennies
Destination Unknown
Medellia Of The Grey Skies
The Last Song
God
Said Sadly
The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right)

total time: 1 hour 15 minutes, 1 CD-R

Chambertrain · 05-18-2006, 09:09 AM

But when has a Pumpkins cd have 22 songs on it? It's usually around 15 songs.

The thread is about an Album, not a cd with how ever many songs you can fit on it.

Chambertrain · 05-18-2006, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonic Johnny

Tribute To Johnny
Transformer
You're All I've Got Tonight
Marquis In Spades
A Night Like This
Jupiter's Lament
Ugly
Cherry
Clones
Mouth Of Babes
Pennies
Destination Unknown
Medellia Of The Grey Skies
The Last Song
God
Said Sadly
The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right)

Edited

Much better, you had way too many James songs on there.

myosis · 05-18-2006, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chambertrain

The thread is about an Album, not a cd with how ever many songs you can fit on it.

that's almost the approach billy took with adore and machina.
it didn't quite ruin adore but it did ruin machina for me.

soluko · 05-18-2006, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrabbMan

Nice try Kentaro, but the fact that you inclooded the Pistichio Medley at all just goes to show you're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
It doesn't work as an album. It works as a boxed set. I generally don't think of myself as a know-it-all, but I think it should be pretty obvious that these songs don't meld. The Pumpkins had probably 80 songs to choose from for MCIS, and they picked 28 that worked quite reasonably well together. . . plenty left for a nice set of EPs, but the MCIS sessions don't work as a quadruple album. Or two doubles. Whatever. . . .this thread should have ended by now. No more posting here!!!

you don't know what you're talking about. many of these songs would have worked wonders for mcis, in the midst of them. billy is a genius, but he's not perfect.

Mariner · 05-18-2006, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrabbMan

No, I don't think so. TT, BWBW, Zero all work as cohesive EPs, and maybe 1979. . .

maybe?

killtrocity · 05-18-2006, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mablak

Does the organization of an album matter when all the songs are awesome? I'll let you decide.

Wait, Dead answered preemptively, sharp as a tack that one.

organization does matter, at least a little bit. look at dark side of the moon... part of its beauty is how well the songs blend together.

of course the awesomeness of a song is the most important factor, but organization does matter.

zsp77 · 05-18-2006, 11:51 PM

How bout a promo album of

Set the Ray to Jerry
Pennies
The Last Song...

I love these 3 tracks in particular.

Floppy Nono · 05-18-2006, 11:54 PM

am i the only one who feels a little ripped off that The Last Song was never the last song for anything...the album...the last show...whatever

davin · 05-18-2006, 11:59 PM

Mellon Collie Disc 3 bootleg works pretty well as an album. it saves me the trouble of having to switch discs, at the very least. so "yes" is my answer to this thread.

boot info.

Floppy Nono · 05-19-2006, 12:01 AM

blank over the last song?!?! i dont like the sound of that sir...not one bit

ZEROpumpkins · 05-19-2006, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floppy Nono

am i the only one who feels a little ripped off that The Last Song was never the last song for anything...the album...the last show...whatever

And to top it all off, Foo Fighters ripped the shit out of it.

Chambertrain · 05-19-2006, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floppy Nono

am i the only one who feels a little ripped off that The Last Song was never the last song for anything...the album...the last show...whatever

I thought that song had something do to with his Father or something.

Well thats wat i read a long time ago anywho's.

tcm · 05-19-2006, 03:21 AM

well it's a good thing Floppy Nono was here to set you straight.

soluko · 05-19-2006, 04:59 AM

it was the last song written for mellon collie...so it was the last song for something.

05-17-2006, 05:43 PM	#1
Catherine Wheel Banned Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 6,310	Does The Aeroplane Flies High work as an album I made a cd of all the b-sides from The Aeroplane Flies High. I think it's as good as any album they put out. Do you think the Aeroplane b-sides work as a cohesive record? my cd: Said Sadly Ugly The Boy Cherry Believe Set The Ray To Jerry God Mouth Of Babes Tribute To Johnny Marquis In Spades Pennies Meladori Magpie Rotten Apples Jupiter's Lament Medellia of the Gray Skies Blank The Last Song The Aeroplane Flies High ( Turns Left, Looks Right ) Transformer The Bells

05-17-2006, 06:19 PM	#2
CrabbMan Amish Hoe Fighter Location: Humboldt, CA, USA Posts: 1,327	No, I don't think so. TT, BWBW, Zero all work as cohesive EPs, and maybe 1979. . . but you can't just play the tracks back to back and have to all work, not in my opinion. You could maybe pick out an LP's worth of songs that go together, but that's still only a maybe. __________________ "We're going to burn your eyeballs out after the show." - James

05-18-2006, 04:03 AM	#12
Dead Deaddy is your daddy! Location: Veronica Mars played with my Wii. Posts: 39,173	No.

05-18-2006, 11:51 PM	#23
zsp77 Apocalyptic Poster Location: Suffer my desire. Posts: 1,775	.. How bout a promo album of Set the Ray to Jerry Pennies The Last Song... I love these 3 tracks in particular.

05-17-2006, 06:35 PM	#3
tcm Braindead Location: Le look de Corgan Posts: 17,922	does the Empire State Building work as a catamaran?

05-17-2006, 06:40 PM	#4
Floppy Nono Socialphobic Posts: 12,722	maybe if you rearranged the songs in the way mcis was arranged then i guess it would be a fine album...but in order...who really wants to star an album with a james iha/lady from veruca salt duet where it's hard to tell who's playing the girl and who's playing the asian

05-17-2006, 11:25 PM	#5
Kentaro Ownz Location: Club Mekon Posts: 541	When I got TAFH I consolidated the five CD's onto two CD-R's to keep the originals in good condition and to save space in my CD wallet: CD1 Bullet with Butterfly Wings ...Said Sadly You're All I've Got Tonight Clones (We're All) A Night Like This Destination Unknown Dreaming 1979 Ugly Believe Cherry The Boy Set the Ray to Jerry Thirty-three The Last Song The Aeroplane Flies High Transformer The Bells My Blue Heaven CD2 Zero God Mouths of Babes Tribute to Johnny Marquis in Spades Pennies Pastichio Medley Tonight, Tonight Meladori Magpie Rotten Apples Medellia of the Grey Skies Jupiter's Lament Blank Tonite Reprise

05-18-2006, 02:12 AM	#7
CrabbMan Amish Hoe Fighter Location: Humboldt, CA, USA Posts: 1,327	Nice try Kentaro, but the fact that you inclooded the Pistichio Medley at all just goes to show you're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. It doesn't work as an album. It works as a boxed set. I generally don't think of myself as a know-it-all, but I think it should be pretty obvious that these songs don't meld. The Pumpkins had probably 80 songs to choose from for MCIS, and they picked 28 that worked quite reasonably well together. . . plenty left for a nice set of EPs, but the MCIS sessions don't work as a quadruple album. Or two doubles. Whatever. . . .this thread should have ended by now. No more posting here!!!

05-18-2006, 02:59 AM	#9
Kahlo Registered User Posts: 17,539	Hmm maybe thats what Billy is going to bring out...he has 50 songs...

05-18-2006, 03:06 AM	#10
tcm Braindead Location: Le look de Corgan Posts: 17,922	he should package the new duodecuple ep along with the sextuple lp of MCIS. a bundle, you know, at a value.

05-18-2006, 04:31 AM	#13
Mablak Minion of Satan Location: Well, if it isn't my old friend, Mr. McGreg, with a leg for an arm and an arm for a leg! Posts: 6,411	Does the organization of an album matter when all the songs are awesome? I'll let you decide. Wait, Dead answered preemptively, sharp as a tack that one.

05-18-2006, 04:56 AM	#14
atombomb Oblivious Virgin Posts: 46	I arranged all the tracks from the mellon collie era into the following on my ipod: MCIS (added medellia of the gray skies after porcelina, set the ray to jerry after take me down, rotten apples after in the arms of sleep, meladori magpie after we only come out and tonight reprise at the end) <-- i thought these tracks really fit into the vibe of this album. MCIS Demos (with vocals) <-- *****s all vocal demos from gravity demos, demo's for D'arcy etc.. ***s methusela MCIS Demos (instrumentals) <-- *****s instumentals from all the gravity demos and miscellanious stuff like acsendo and 666 audio Then I arranged the TAFH as follows: 1 God 2 Mouth of Babes 3 Tribute to Johnny 4 Marquis in Spades 5 Pennies 6 Transformer 7 Ugly 8 The Boy 9 Cherry 10 TAFH 11 Believe 12 The Last song I don't view these as part of the album but are tagged on the end: 13 ...Said sadly 13 Blank 14 Jupiters Lament 15 The Bells finally the covers: 16 Destination Unknown 17 Clones 18 You're all i've got tonight 19 Dreaming 20 A night like this 21 Sad Peter Pan 22 My Blue Heaven 23 Christmas time 24 Pistachio medley

05-18-2006, 08:34 AM	#15
Chambertrain Demi-God Location: Australia Posts: 300	They are B-Sides for a reason. Not saying that there not good enough for a Album, but it all doesnt blend. Plus, singles are cheaper.

05-18-2006, 09:00 AM	#16
Sonic Johnny Through Silver In Buds Location: Centralia Posts: 16,502	Tribute To Johnny Transformer The Boy You're All I've Got Tonight Marquis In Spades Blank A Night Like This Jupiter's Lament Ugly The Bells Cherry Rotten Apples Clones Mouth Of Babes Believe Pennies Destination Unknown Medellia Of The Grey Skies The Last Song God Said Sadly The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right) total time: 1 hour 15 minutes, 1 CD-R

05-18-2006, 09:09 AM	#17
Chambertrain Demi-God Location: Australia Posts: 300	But when has a Pumpkins cd have 22 songs on it? It's usually around 15 songs. The thread is about an Album, not a cd with how ever many songs you can fit on it.

05-18-2006, 11:54 PM	#24
Floppy Nono Socialphobic Posts: 12,722	am i the only one who feels a little ripped off that The Last Song was never the last song for anything...the album...the last show...whatever

05-18-2006, 11:59 PM	#25
davin Physiopathic Paralysis Location: Carcosa Posts: 10,701	Mellon Collie Disc 3 bootleg works pretty well as an album. it saves me the trouble of having to switch discs, at the very least. so "yes" is my answer to this thread. boot info.

05-19-2006, 12:01 AM	#26
Floppy Nono Socialphobic Posts: 12,722	blank over the last song?!?! i dont like the sound of that sir...not one bit

05-19-2006, 03:21 AM	#29
tcm Braindead Location: Le look de Corgan Posts: 17,922	well it's a good thing Floppy Nono was here to set you straight.

05-19-2006, 04:59 AM	#30
soluko Pledge Posts: 142	it was the last song written for mellon collie...so it was the last song for something.