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Old 09-16-2018, 11:01 AM   #1
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Default Times Billy Has Slipped Into The "Old Voice" Post 2000

Billy said on instagram the other day he sings in the "old voice" live for a laugh sometimes. ITT, post performances where he has.

Here are two, queued up.





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Old 09-16-2018, 11:53 AM   #2
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it's stupid how much better he sounds here

 
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:53 AM   #3
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Old 09-16-2018, 11:57 AM   #4
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:20 PM   #5
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Ohh.... that's how he used to sound.

I believe he does "choose" the way he sings now as it presents little to no effort. That's why there's the drop consonants band whisper time singing: it's easier. It takes no effort to sing that way.

The other way, the old way, he has to use his diaphragm and his stomach muscles to belt it out.

Old way is 1000 times better.

 
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:27 PM   #6
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old way IS bad for his voice and unsustainable. but who cares, be a rock star. give it till it's gone. it sounds great.
better to burn out than to fade away.

SP2 billy is a pussy.

 
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Old 09-16-2018, 12:38 PM   #7
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I would love to hear the soft style, like on Obscured or Whir. That gentle approach.

 
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:17 PM   #8
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Guys put on sd or mcis and you get old billy voice.
Funny how you stick to the past.
Move on boyz.LoL

 
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:38 PM   #9
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funny how we want to listen to good music.

 
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Old 09-16-2018, 01:45 PM   #10
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"i suck these days but sometimes i choose to kick ass. for a laugh."

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:40 AM   #11
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funny how we want to listen to good music.
if you read billys q&as you would know its not about this at all. if you like a band once, you have to like everything ever since. unless you're a fucking phony. then billy aint got time for you boy.

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:42 AM   #12
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so weird for him to straight up answer that question

the answer:

"I choose to sound like ass"

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:58 AM   #13
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old way IS bad for his voice and unsustainable. but who cares, be a rock star. give it till it's gone. it sounds great.
better to burn out than to fade away.
That's what happened to Liam Gallagher. Roared away with no issues for about 8 years, and then his voice was f**ked and he never got it back.

Check out some live Oasis footage from 2005; at least Billy has never sounded like that!

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 12:00 PM   #14
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People were saying Billy "tries too hard" on vocals now. I listened to the first 2 tracks off Zeitgeist the other day and the main thing that struck me was how little effort it sounded like he was putting into the vocals - and what's more, they're damn near completely dry, mixing-wise

Anyway regarding the op, I remember everyone freaking out when As Rome Burns started getting played, on account of it sounded more or less like "old Bill" and was actually kinda aggressive vocally - at least in relation to everything else we were getting from them at the time


 
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Old 09-17-2018, 12:38 PM   #15
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Old 09-17-2018, 01:51 PM   #16
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"i suck these days but sometimes i choose to kick ass. for a laugh."
yes

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:23 PM   #17
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if you read billys q&as you would know its not about this at all. if you like a band once, you have to like everything ever since. unless you're a fucking phony. then billy aint got time for you boy.
this pisses me off possibly more than anything, because most of us here don't think he has released much good music in the last 18 years, and we like the band so much we STILL keep following closely and listening to every release

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:24 PM   #18
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like we were getting all excited over Silvery Sometimes before it dropped knowing that there was like a 10% chance it would be even mediocre.

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:49 PM   #19
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This sounds so spot on it turns my stomach. I'd be happy with him just respecting his old songs enough to do the vocals justice on those. He can evolve his music if he likes, but why do the pre-2000 songs have to pay the price...

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 03:27 PM   #20
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This sounds so spot on it turns my stomach. I'd be happy with him just respecting his old songs enough to do the vocals justice on those. He can evolve his music if he likes, but why do the pre-2000 songs have to pay the price...
Except for the fucked up drums.

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 03:29 PM   #21
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People were saying Billy "tries too hard" on vocals now. I listened to the first 2 tracks off Zeitgeist the other day and the main thing that struck me was how little effort it sounded like he was putting into the vocals - and what's more, they're damn near completely dry, mixing-wise

Anyway regarding the op, I remember everyone freaking out when As Rome Burns started getting played, on account of it sounded more or less like "old Bill" and was actually kinda aggressive vocally - at least in relation to everything else we were getting from them at the time

god damn that song is hot as fuck. stupid billy not using it

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:29 PM   #22
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He's just givin' the kids what they want

Who needs songs like that & Burnt Orange Black when you got Widow Wake & Run2Me

Good on you, nubully, good on you...

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:03 PM   #23
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what the fuck? he's using like, 90% of his Gish era voice here. he could do that this whole time? this sounds great. fuck everything about his new voice.

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:11 PM   #24
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Billy said on instagram the other day he sings in the "old voice" live for a laugh sometimes. ITT, post performances where he has.

Here are two, queued up.





That performance of Eye isn't, in my opinion, Billy slipping back into his old voice. There are dropped consonants and terrible vibrato all over the place. "Turn... to the gates of 'ehvahhnn," etc.

I'd also say that just him trying to whine and scream isn't solely what made what his old singing style was.

I'd like to see some recent examples of Billy actually "singing" like he used to. Find some slower, mellower songs, that don't have him using terrible vibrato and dropped consonants, and I'll take back what I said in the other thread: that his voice got fucked up from many years of screaming, that a vocal coach told him to lay off and change shit up, that he now can't get out of bad-sounding habits, and that it isn't a "choice" of his.

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 05:15 PM   #25
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what the fuck? he's using like, 90% of his Gish era voice here. he could do that this whole time? this sounds great. fuck everything about his new voice.
Was too busy listening to Mike B butcher the fill at around 50 seconds.

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:59 PM   #26
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Those videos of modern Billy singing in his old voice were hilarious! Thanks for the laugh!!!

 
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:01 PM   #27
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I showed some friends those videos and even they couldnt stop laughing!

 
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Old 09-18-2018, 04:59 AM   #28
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That's what happened to Liam Gallagher. Roared away with no issues for about 8 years, and then his voice was f**ked and he never got it back.

Check out some live Oasis footage from 2005; at least Billy has never sounded like that!
who gives a shit that oasis were a shit band in 2005

 
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who gives a shit that oasis were a shit band in 1995

 
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:16 AM   #30
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That's amazing. It sounds like the record. Are there any examples of recent Tristessa performances though where he sings like "new Bill"?

He came close to the mellow / soft style a few times on the Shiny tour, at least from what I heard on the Seattle broadcast. Close, but not exact. Vibrato and the catch in his throat ruined it.

It's strange to admit that the closest he's come on record has been during the "for lovers" section on Anaise on MtaE. Again, close but no banana. He did the soft-sigh / double tracked voice on those parts, but did use vibrato. That's the closest I've heard on record.

And snarly Bill appeared on One and All but again, not quite.

 
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