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[cocksure]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

how so

if a child is afraid of something, you should comfort them. is this fucking rocket science

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by cocksure

i mean i'm not saying i have parenting figured out, i dont even want kids (ever) but man sometimes you gotta listen and sometimes you gotta tell them to shut up

well yeah

and i'd say it's better to keep most of the listening time to when you're not with a bunch of other people who don't care about your kid

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

are the hope/wishes/fears of a 3-year-old really that relevant though

are you kidding me

[cocksure]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

sure but you're just jumping to this conclusion that i don't care at all since i don't think they should be indulged the way they are currently

the phrase "children should be seen and not heard" was mostly a joke directed at rottenugly since he needs to stop posting, but it also doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to lock your kid in a closet and hit them with sticks three times an hour

yea sure. i never thought we disagreed very much to begin with. your trolling went pretty far though. as is usual. i dunno, i got distracted.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by cocksure

i mean i'm not saying i have parenting figured out, i dont even want kids (ever) but man sometimes you gotta listen and sometimes you gotta tell them to shut up

uh right, the argument follows that most of the time nobody tells them to shut up

[cocksure]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

and i'd say it's better to keep most of the listening time to when you're not with a bunch of other people who don't care about your kid

yeah sure did i disagree with this

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by cocksure

if a child is afraid of something, you should comfort them. is this fucking rocket science

again

this isn't about either indulging everything or being neglectful/abusive

like yeah if your kid is hungry you should maybe feed it too. but that's losing the thread of the conversation, isn't it

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

well yeah

and i'd say it's better to keep most of the listening time to when you're not with a bunch of other people who don't care about your kid

of course

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by cocksure

your trolling went pretty far though. as is usual.

this isn't trolling, what is your problem then

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by cocksure

yeah sure did i disagree with this

if not, what the hell are you arguing about

[Eulogy]

the idea of children being seen and not heard

doesn't that imply a context where it's not just parent/child

[Trotskilicious]

it's supposed to

[cocksure]

actually i was originally arguing against the idea that children are not "special" (whatever that means). trotski somehow put forward this idea that children and teenagers are pretty much useless beings until they've got a degree or whatever. and i think that's wrong. totally middle of the road standard thing to say.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by reprise85

are you kidding me

christ reprise

if a 3 year old is like "OMG I'M AFRAIDS OF MONSUTRS" you don't legitimize it by coddling them

which i'm pretty sure is what you're going to do to your horrible future children

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by cocksure

trotski put forward this idea that children and teenagers are pretty much useless beings

haha how are they not

and yeah you are not special at any stage of development so maybe you do understand the crux of the argument

[reprise85]

people have unrealistic fears

children and adults

they are distressing even if they are unfounded.

what is wrong with comforting someone

i'd also tell the child that there were no monsters and they aren't real

and i doubt i will ever have children.

[Trotskilicious]

by the way how do you argue against an idea that children/people are not special if you don't even know what that means

[cocksure]

i think we have different associations with children being "special". as i said earlier, i think it's dumb to tell children, for example that they have this one talent nobody else has (something that was done a lot when i was young). on the other hand, everyone has different interests, different backgrounds etc. and i'm totally against whitewashing that

[duovamp]

If you ain't a licensed medical professional or you ain't got certification to practice medicine in psychoanalysis, psychotherapy, or pharmacy, get out.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by cocksure

on the other hand, everyone has different interests, different backgrounds etc. and i'm totally against whitewashing that

well i didn't ever say anything in favor of that

[duovamp]

How will oil speculation continue destroy the oil market's susceptibility to volatile prices, and how should countries like the USA factor in this information into diplomacy in the Middle East, while maintaining a strong position in Europe and Asia? Will profit motive be enough to keep developing and developed markets from spinning out of control as paper barrels and wet barrels, driven by the same principles, only stand to tear them apart? And what sort of historic and political factors should be considered relevant in decisions to increase or decrease regulations in this area?

Well Bobby here is three, but his Chinese toys have a petroleum base, so let's get his valuable input.

[Trotskilicious]

larry here works at a gas station, has no formal education and is a wife beating alcoholic, but his opinion on oil prices is as valid as everyone else's because we're all truly special individuals <3 <3 <3

[duovamp]

Well now I may not be an astrophysicist, but lemme tell you what I think 'bout that big ol' collider thingamajig they got goin' in Europe or Canada or whatever.

[duovamp]

And that is why democracy simply doesn't work.

[Trotskilicious]

[duovamp]

Awwwwwwwww.

[Trotskilicious]

Child labor laws are ruining this country.

[duovamp]

Fucking socialists like Obama, man.

[Trotskilicious]

and jew banksters

[cocksure]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

well i didn't ever say anything in favor of that

thats all i ever meant by 'special' and i think it's important.