Has anyone here been a fan long enough to remember the shaving of the head?

BurtSampson · 06-16-2016, 10:56 AM

I bet it was ~wacky~ when Billy looks like a gaunt drug addled baby (not baby aj tho) instead of fair haired indie darling all of a sudden

themadcaplaughs · 06-16-2016, 11:13 AM

I did not specifically see it when it happened. I did not watch SNL, and footage of the band was hard to come by outside music videos and the occasional MTV update. I would have to assume my first exposure came from the "1979" or "Zero" music video. I remember thinking it was just a weird fad that would pass, especially considering they drew him with hair on The Simpsons, but here we are 21 years later.

T&T · 06-16-2016, 11:14 AM

I remember seeing the snl broadcast live and remarking on the excessive eyeliner and makeup he was wearing more than the bald head.
SP going glam? made sense with a double album. SP wasn't grunge and it was obvious billy wanted to separate himself from the pack.

grape · 06-16-2016, 04:52 PM

Why "fair haired?" He was naturally brown haired and actually dyed it black during Mellon Collie early press stuff.

Yeah, I was into the band and into SNL so I remember being surprised. The weird part was how prominent his eyebrows were in that performance.

fuzzyroes · 06-16-2016, 07:08 PM

I remember seeing the 1979 video when it was new and thinking what the fuck!?

Did anyone think that he looked cooler with the bald head? At the time I remember no one liking it.

Disco King · 06-16-2016, 10:27 PM

What do you guys bet Corgan's balding pattern is? I'm betting toilet seat.

MyOneAndOnly · 06-16-2016, 10:29 PM

I saw them live b4 Gish. Can't remember what year it was.

MyOneAndOnly · 06-16-2016, 10:31 PM

Must have been 90

houseofglass11 · 06-17-2016, 01:53 AM

Yeah I remember seeing them on SNL in October 95' and being shocked that he had shaved his head. You could also tell he was on something during that performance.

Gooch · 06-17-2016, 11:41 AM

yeah it was ~wacky~, but mostly weird. just like if you turned on SNL next week and Dave Grohl shaved his head and was bald. Totally unexpected, and distracting at first. Didn't know what to make of it. I remember looking at the TV with a confused look on my face, and then by the end of the song, i was over his clean shavenness . But then the Zero persona was soon ingrained in our heads, and it just became part of his identity. From that point on he always wore the zero shirt, so he became a sort of character, separate from full-head-of-hair Billy. there became a point where he could not grow back his hair, it would have been too weird. and ~wacky~.

T&T · 06-17-2016, 12:21 PM

at the time I assumed he'd just grow it back eventually after he was done with the character. But come Adore in 1998, it seemed clear that he was going to keep it that way, and there was enough talk about him going/being bald that it seemed like the reasonable thing to do - I guess.

his hair was super thin
http://i.imgur.com/nXkrg.jpg

Rafalski · 06-17-2016, 12:42 PM

you can see teh whole curvature of he got dang head

MTAE · 06-17-2016, 02:29 PM

It was all worth it just for the Ava Adore video. Perfect look.

Funbags · 06-17-2016, 05:04 PM

Dude was going bald.
He shaved his head.
????
The end.

qwerty sp · 06-17-2016, 07:18 PM

Losing the hair was worse than losing D'Arcy

qwerty sp · 06-17-2016, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T&T

at the time I assumed he'd just grow it back eventually after he was done with the character. But come Adore in 1998, it seemed clear that he was going to keep it that way, and there was enough talk about him going/being bald that it seemed like the reasonable thing to do - I guess.

his hair was super thin
http://i.imgur.com/nXkrg.jpg

He was a very pretty woman

run2pee · 06-17-2016, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty sp

He was a very pretty woman

You've been doop'd

That's a pic of bill shopped with an actual woman, "if they mated" style

run2pee · 06-17-2016, 09:17 PM

e.g.:

https://clancyartpages.files.wordpre...10/mated41.jpg

run2pee · 06-17-2016, 09:23 PM

Some legit locks from glory days of yore:

http://65.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3...0ccto1_500.jpg

fuzzyroes · 06-17-2016, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funbags

Dude was going bald.
He shaved his head.
????
The end.

But the fact that he went bald as a cue ball was the shocking part. He could have just shaved it short with a longer attachment and no one would have really been shocked.

I think he saw the writing on the wall as far as his hairline went and just decided to shave it bald so he could posture that he "could grow his hair back if he wanted to, but he's making a statement" type of bullshit.

fuzzyroes · 06-17-2016, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Run To Me

Some legit locks from glory days of yore:

http://65.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3...0ccto1_500.jpg

what a cock-rocker, highlighting his hair and shit

qwerty sp · 06-18-2016, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

what a cock-rocker, highlighting his hair and shit

Lol

slunken · 06-18-2016, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houseofglass11

You could also tell he was on something during that performance.

My money is on meth.

slunken · 06-18-2016, 04:30 PM

That's also my guess.

Thanks that's my time.

Elphenor · 06-19-2016, 09:36 PM

Something I've been thinking about since reading "fair haired indie darling" in this thread title

Corgan was my first exposure to the indie type artist even though he wasn't indie at all.

I'm talking about the ugly sweater wearing goofy guy hunched over his piano in his house

Song like "Lily" and "We only Come out at Night" were not classic rock they were a total different animal from what I knew

JESUSNEEDSAHIT · 06-19-2016, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

But the fact that he went bald as a cue ball was the shocking part. He could have just shaved it short with a longer attachment and no one would have really been shocked.

I think he saw the writing on the wall as far as his hairline went and just decided to shave it bald so he could posture that he "could grow his hair back if he wanted to, but he's making a statement" type of bullshit.

he just didnt want to look old. there is nothing cool or fashinable about losing your hair in your 20s so he shaved it. image is important to the pumpkins, always has been.

redbreegull · 06-19-2016, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Run To Me

Some legit locks from glory days of yore:

http://65.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3...0ccto1_500.jpg

epic photo

Ramdust · 06-20-2016, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funbags

Dude was going bald.
He shaved his head.
????
The end.

this

Shadaloo · 06-21-2016, 02:58 PM

I remember seeing it in the 1979 video and going "Cool. It works for him." That's about it, really.

slunken · 06-21-2016, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Something I've been thinking about since reading "fair haired indie darling" in this thread title

Corgan was my first exposure to the indie type artist even though he wasn't indie at all.

I'm talking about the ugly sweater wearing goofy guy hunched over his piano in his house

Song like "Lily" and "We only Come out at Night" were not classic rock they were a total different animal from what I knew

This was the original appeal of SP. In the wake of "grunge music" which was maybe suppose to be alernative and embrace feminist ideals, billy actually sort of did that, for a time.

that's what, imo, always pushed sp away from other grunge bands - was the masculine vs feminine dynamic

06-16-2016, 10:56 AM	#1
BurtSampson Apocalyptic Poster Location: Billy's Buttcrack Posts: 1,687	Has anyone here been a fan long enough to remember the shaving of the head? I bet it was ~wacky~ when Billy looks like a gaunt drug addled baby (not baby aj tho) instead of fair haired indie darling all of a sudden

06-17-2016, 07:18 PM	#15
qwerty sp Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,764	Losing the hair was worse than losing D'Arcy __________________ I am one as you are three

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06-16-2016, 11:13 AM	#2
themadcaplaughs Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,626	I did not specifically see it when it happened. I did not watch SNL, and footage of the band was hard to come by outside music videos and the occasional MTV update. I would have to assume my first exposure came from the "1979" or "Zero" music video. I remember thinking it was just a weird fad that would pass, especially considering they drew him with hair on The Simpsons, but here we are 21 years later.

06-16-2016, 11:14 AM	#3
T&T Socialphobic Location: montreal Posts: 11,676	I remember seeing the snl broadcast live and remarking on the excessive eyeliner and makeup he was wearing more than the bald head. SP going glam? made sense with a double album. SP wasn't grunge and it was obvious billy wanted to separate himself from the pack.

06-16-2016, 04:52 PM	#4
grape Pledge Posts: 186	Why "fair haired?" He was naturally brown haired and actually dyed it black during Mellon Collie early press stuff. Yeah, I was into the band and into SNL so I remember being surprised. The weird part was how prominent his eyebrows were in that performance.

06-16-2016, 07:08 PM	#5
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	I remember seeing the 1979 video when it was new and thinking what the fuck!? Did anyone think that he looked cooler with the bald head? At the time I remember no one liking it.

06-16-2016, 10:27 PM	#6
Disco King Minion of Satan Location: Banned Posts: 8,874	What do you guys bet Corgan's balding pattern is? I'm betting toilet seat.

06-16-2016, 10:29 PM	#7
MyOneAndOnly Shut the fuck up! Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor Posts: 23,882	I saw them live b4 Gish. Can't remember what year it was.

06-16-2016, 10:31 PM	#8
MyOneAndOnly Shut the fuck up! Location: "Okay, white power feminist" - yo soy el mejor Posts: 23,882	Must have been 90

06-17-2016, 01:53 AM	#9
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,689	Yeah I remember seeing them on SNL in October 95' and being shocked that he had shaved his head. You could also tell he was on something during that performance.

06-17-2016, 11:41 AM	#10
Gooch Apocalyptic Poster Location: Pancakes in my area Posts: 1,553	yeah it was ~wacky~, but mostly weird. just like if you turned on SNL next week and Dave Grohl shaved his head and was bald. Totally unexpected, and distracting at first. Didn't know what to make of it. I remember looking at the TV with a confused look on my face, and then by the end of the song, i was over his clean shavenness . But then the Zero persona was soon ingrained in our heads, and it just became part of his identity. From that point on he always wore the zero shirt, so he became a sort of character, separate from full-head-of-hair Billy. there became a point where he could not grow back his hair, it would have been too weird. and ~wacky~.

06-17-2016, 12:21 PM	#11
T&T Socialphobic Location: montreal Posts: 11,676	at the time I assumed he'd just grow it back eventually after he was done with the character. But come Adore in 1998, it seemed clear that he was going to keep it that way, and there was enough talk about him going/being bald that it seemed like the reasonable thing to do - I guess. his hair was super thin http://i.imgur.com/nXkrg.jpg

06-17-2016, 12:42 PM	#12
Rafalski Pledge Location: The Mean Streets Of Aurora, IL Posts: 122	you can see teh whole curvature of he got dang head

06-17-2016, 02:29 PM	#13
MTAE Pledge Posts: 53	It was all worth it just for the Ava Adore video. Perfect look.

06-17-2016, 05:04 PM	#14
Funbags Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 3,425	Dude was going bald. He shaved his head. ???? The end.

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06-17-2016, 09:23 PM	#19
run2pee Minion of Satan Location: An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom Posts: 7,747	Some legit locks from glory days of yore: http://65.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3...0ccto1_500.jpg

06-18-2016, 04:30 PM	#24
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	That's also my guess. Thanks that's my time.

06-19-2016, 09:36 PM	#25
Elphenor Braindead Location: TX Posts: 16,289	Something I've been thinking about since reading "fair haired indie darling" in this thread title Corgan was my first exposure to the indie type artist even though he wasn't indie at all. I'm talking about the ugly sweater wearing goofy guy hunched over his piano in his house Song like "Lily" and "We only Come out at Night" were not classic rock they were a total different animal from what I knew

06-21-2016, 02:58 PM	#29
Shadaloo Apocalyptic Poster Location: up on the cross you go little fella Posts: 2,676	I remember seeing it in the 1979 video and going "Cool. It works for him." That's about it, really.