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Old 10-15-2014, 08:26 PM   #1
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Why are ppl such dicks about this jesus fuck

 
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:33 PM   #2
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You're a dick if you're against raising it

 
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:44 PM   #3
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but then the companies would fire everyone!

 
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:47 PM   #4
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I dont want guys like elph and teenagers getting raises

Also even ppl not working min wage need a raise, should be tierd or something i dunno. My job is way more complex than food prep...but im making 15 an hour

 
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:50 PM   #5
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I have to hand it to big B for being able to push the myth that they don't actually need workers, but fuck it, they're only $8 an hour

 
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Old 10-15-2014, 09:52 PM   #6
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I dont want guys like elph and teenagers getting raises

Also even ppl not working min wage need a raise, should be tierd or something i dunno. My job is way more complex than food prep...but im making 15 an hour
What a dick

I want to make more money than young people so I feel good about myself

 
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Old 10-15-2014, 10:00 PM   #7
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Youre worth about 7 an hour

 
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:36 PM   #8
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I have to hand it to big B for being able to push the myth that they don't actually need workers, but fuck it, they're only $8 an hour
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Old 10-16-2014, 12:11 AM   #9
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Poots i think you should read that book you goddamn clown

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 09:10 AM   #10
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You peasants should read this Facebook post

https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/...6d&oe=54F45D98

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 01:05 PM   #11
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Its automatically implied anyway that if you have minimum education you must also have minimum motivation and offer minimum contribution to the workplace (not exactly sure what there is to contribute at say, mcds anyway... if you're getting those burgers done on time or handing the right amount of cash back to the customer and not fucking up their order, that should be about what's expected). And then you know..there's people who have above minimum education but still can't get work anywhere else...it must be because they're not properly motivated though so fuck 'em.

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:27 PM   #12
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Someone has to flip burgers. We can't all be managers.

And I'm of the opinion that anyone who works should make enough to afford food, shelter, clothing etc. without too much struggle.

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:32 PM   #13
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Yes, a living wage.

What has SeaTac been like since their big increase?

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:41 PM   #14
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Someone has to flip burgers. We can't all be managers.

And I'm of the opinion that anyone who works should make enough to afford food, shelter, clothing etc. without too much struggle.
Its probably their fault they can't afford rent, they're probably trying to live in an apartment that doesn't have roaches. Typical of the entitled poor. What's next? running water?

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:43 PM   #15
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Bootstraps

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:47 PM   #16
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People should be able to afford necessities like food and shelter regardless of whether they work or not.

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:47 PM   #17
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I dont want guys like elph and teenagers getting raises

Also even ppl not working min wage need a raise, should be tierd or something i dunno. My job is way more complex than food prep...but im making 15 an hour
If you don't want people making your taco to have a living wage then make your own fucking taco

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:50 PM   #18
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People should be able to afford necessities like food and shelter regardless of whether they work or not.
Well yes but the point here is being able to afford that stuff without having to apply for help from the government and stuff. Right? Or am I misunderstanding you.

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:51 PM   #19
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People should be able to afford necessities like food and shelter regardless of whether they work or not.
I agree with this as well.

Everyone's pay would go up too if people were no longer held hostage by companies because not working means being homeless

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 04:16 PM   #20
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You peasants should read this Facebook post

https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/...6d&oe=54F45D98
Pecisely what inspired this thread

Fucking white people what the fuck

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 04:17 PM   #21
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If you don't want people making your taco to have a living wage then make your own fucking taco
Read the post i made 1 more time

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 04:18 PM   #22
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Ppl who make my tacos are fully grown blue collar lunchpail guys. Elph is a little kid. Little kids should starve

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 04:38 PM   #23
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So would you like an age based minimum wage then?

I still don't understand what your deal is. It's not as if the extra two dollars an hour are being deducted from your pay.

You sound like a little kid here

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:22 PM   #24
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Don't worry guys, THIS time, I know we'll solve this one. Quick, call the president and let him know that our debate is about to produce the answer.

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:22 PM   #25
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if you can't fork over more than 200 dollars a week to an "employee" you probably shouldn't be running a "company"

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:25 PM   #26
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Don't worry guys, THIS time, I know we'll solve this one. Quick, call the president and let him know that our debate is about to produce the answer.
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:31 PM   #27
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Company A has X money to pay Y workers minimum wage. Increasing minimum wage does not also increase X, it decreases Y. Don't be willfully dense.
It's like you read the first chapter of Economics and then quit.

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:34 PM   #28
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You missed the next chapter where it explains that the most important thing to an industry is Demand. Demand comes from people having spending money.

Spending money comes from higher pay

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:37 PM   #29
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lol

"There is no more"

There's fucking plenty of money. There's just such an incredibly high income disparity.

That's probably covered in Ch. 3 which you obviously didn't get to

 
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:42 PM   #30
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And Again:

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I have to hand it to big B for being able to push the myth that they don't actually need workers, but fuck it, they're only $8 an hour
Companies can't really fire a lot of employees even when the wage goes up, because if they're smart, they're already running with almost as few as possible in order to maximize profits.

When the wage goes up, they can raise prices, but competition generally keeps that in check.

So really the only feasible option is to decrease income disparity

 
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