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Old 11-17-2015, 08:31 PM   #91
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I pretty much agree but I'm not into comparing guitarists because what matters is if the songs as a whole are good and most of the bands I like I couldn't even tell you the name of the guitarist or they had more than one guitarist or they changed guitarists constantly

 
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Old 11-17-2015, 08:34 PM   #92
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I have met guitar players that are probably just as if not more technically proficient as Slash but they weren't really creative and had shit tastes and so who cares they'll never do anything beyond covers at boring bars

 
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:10 PM   #93
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yeah I know what you mean. there are many different measures of a guitarist. It's a bit frustrating though because the majority of guys in "guitar culture" seem to be boneheads whose lists are exactly what I said, top electric blues rock guitarist virtuosos... and that leaves out so many important musicians who did really creative and innovative things but are not recognized because they can't or don't engage in histrionic pentatonic freakouts after every chorus in a song.

 
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:13 PM   #94
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I mean these days cultural memory of this shit doesn't even encompass someone like Buddy Guy, who is one of the most supreme American electric blues guitarists... but he wasn't in a cock rock band between 1965 and 1989 sooooo

 
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:48 PM   #95
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Don't you guys realize that for the most part famous musicians are all goddamn stupid? Anyone looking to these guys for some sort of philosophical advice are doomed from the get go anyways.

 
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:49 PM   #96
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I don't doubt for a second that Axl rose is a shitty person, but he makes some pretty awesome music that I enjoy so who cares?

Same goes for Billy Corgan

 
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:54 PM   #97
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personally I don't see Billy Corgan as having ever quite hit that level of hateful craziness, but yeah. we all know musicians tend to be crazy fuckers. doesn't excuse saying terrible shit, and yes, it is amusing to look back on it especially in light of this band sucking so hard

 
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:03 AM   #98
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True, Axls likely more of a hateful bigot, but Corgans a renown shithead too. I'm aquaintances with a guy who got chewed out by Billy Corgan for simply asking for his autograph

 
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Old 11-18-2015, 10:16 AM   #99
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Don't you guys realize that for the most part famous musicians are all goddamn stupid? Anyone looking to these guys for some sort of philosophical advice are doomed from the get go anyways.
The ones you choose to listen to are fucking idiots yes

But what if I told you smart people make music too

 
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Old 11-18-2015, 10:17 AM   #100
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They're what you call "hipsters"

 
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Old 11-18-2015, 10:26 AM   #101
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Corgan is just kind of dick and doesn't play nice with others

I also think he was smart but being a rockstar for the past 20+ years has ruined his perspective and he too often talks about things he doesn't really know anything about as if his opinions have merit based on him being Billy Corgan

I don't think he's really comparable to Axl

 
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Old 11-18-2015, 04:29 PM   #102
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forget all this nonsense and listen to a real guitarist


 
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:09 AM   #103
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I still don't get how people can outright hate GnR



If you're gonna hate something why not hate those lame-ass turds who sing that "This is gonna be the best day of my life" song or something like that?

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:39 AM   #104
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Because GnR are just as dumb but with electric guitar

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 01:12 AM   #105
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Corgan is just kind of dick and doesn't play nice with others

I also think he was smart but being a rockstar for the past 20+ years has ruined his perspective and he too often talks about things he doesn't really know anything about as if his opinions have merit based on him being Billy Corgan

I don't think he's really comparable to Axl
You're probably right:

***Funny story time***

I was all fucked up, rocking out at a GNR show about 3 or 4 years ago about 5 or 6 rows back on the floor and center. I'm just rocking out and Axl stops a song, seemingly points right at me and says :"HEY MOTHER FUCKER!!! YEAH YOU!" I'm looking around like oh shit, what did I do... and he's like "Get this mother fucker OUTTA here" and it literally seemed like he was talking right at me, but the security guard comes in and pulls this brown guy like 2 rows ahead of me out... Apparently he was being rough or fighting or some shit, and as he's getting pulled out Axl Goes "See ya later KUUUUMAAAAAR!!!"

Was kinda racist and shitty.

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 01:15 AM   #106
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Then again, Corgans probably just as bad in his own way. I mean the guy famously started swearing at his managers little daughter for simply sitting in his seat when he went off to the restroom. What kinda man gets aggressive to a little girl?

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 04:38 AM   #107
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what? i've never heard that story in my life, lol

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 04:50 AM   #108
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source please

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 08:29 AM   #109
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yeah i think you just made that up

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 10:42 AM   #110
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If you're gonna hate something why not hate those lame-ass turds who sing that "This is gonna be the best day of my life" song or something like that?
I saw this band as openers in a now-defunct hole in the wall bar literally a month before i noticed they kinda blew up with their songs everywhere. They were good and I'd still rather listen to the EP they were slingin' for $5 than GNR

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:21 AM   #111
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I wouldn't. i mean these fucks have a fucking banjo player. they're literally the worst kind of shit modern music has to offer.

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:12 PM   #112
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Probably

Who knows

Or cares

Sometimes i like background filler music tho

And my kid loves that single if theirs

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:14 PM   #113
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When i saw thrm the banjo player looked like a prison extra from shawshank redemption tho

Blue button down buttoned all the way up with dark blue jeans and a slightly old timey prison haircut. Totally at odds with the other dudes

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:24 PM   #114
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It's all about Captain Beefheart's first album when it comes to white guys playing pure blues

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:25 PM   #115
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There's nothing more radio friendly snooze fest than "hard rock"

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:22 PM   #116
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Sharon Osborne talks about it in her autobiography. I believe it happened to her daughter Kelly. I may be wrong about how young the girl was though, I think she was like 12 or something... Still pretty rotten behavior

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:25 PM   #117
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I wouldn't. i mean these fucks have a fucking banjo player. they're literally the worst kind of shit modern music has to offer.
Yeah, it's terrible, that song seemed to play like every hour at my work when it was new. The cheesiest shit ever

 
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:28 PM   #118
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...and then, this really hot bitch came up to me in the crowd and said "I want you to blow my mind" so we went back to her place and danced with Mr. Brownstone and I put it to her and she was like "fuzzy, you're an animal!" then I was like "later bitch". It was a pretty good night.
lmao I actually did meet this guy on the bus to the show with a mound of cocaine, we both had floor tickets and my other friends had tickets for the seats so I kinda hung with him and inside we started doing blow with this super hot blonde chick he was with who was dressed all 80ish but in a non-ironic way. Her admitted claim to fame was having sex with the lead singer of Steel Panther haha.

Was a super fun night

 
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Old 11-23-2015, 11:07 AM   #119
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HEY!

THATS WHAT SHE SAID!!!!

 
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:30 PM   #120
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There's nothing more radio friendly snooze fest than "hard rock"


you know I've recently checked out some live stuff from Doobie Brothers, Kenny Loggins, Eddie Money...


you'd think much of that would be cringe worthy, but its quite the opposite if you enjoy outstanding overall musicianship.

the 70's live musician was by and large a bad ass, no matter the genre.

 
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