Zwan

[T&T]

billly needs to take a vacation, and he needs to let his band members also take one instead of being a tyrant.

[pavementtune]

Nicole and Mike got their vacation.
As did Jeff for half a year, now he's back on duty, including falling asleep and picking his nose while drinking tea.

that's some progress in terms of tyrannizing band members.

[herzogxyu]

not to get into too much, but i feel like zwan was a direct answer to smashing pumpkins and machina. the whole pop vibe of zwan and the sort of love-positivity theme of the songs was definitely a song writer's direct response to that heavy sad bloated machina beast.
zwan was very simple songs that were put out on a plate for people as opposed to machina's thick heavy leaden story or whatnot.
the album wasn't the best. as is typical the best songs were left off. relegated to dvd snippets or trotted out time to time as an encore (or altogether left behind).
the bridge between the two is obviously untitled. with the major chords and all the love lyrics.

that said:
acoustic zwan may have been the best. though the 3 guitar attack was also pretty fantastic. when i saw them live for 2 nights in la on that spring 03 tour, you could not hear pajos guitar. at all. and the first night they only played 70 minutes. (yelena was there but i'm not sure if this were the reason or not.) though they did close with of a broken heart.
the next night they played almost 2 hours with a bunch of encores. and tons more energy.

i always felt like there were only a couple of songs i hated on mstos and a few i was meh about. yeah, and baby let's rock, are the come on let's go and bring the light of the album. like.....why???
\you left off a new poetry? or chrysanthemum. or whatever other awesome song for those?

back on point. i think what would have worked the best is not the death of the (original) smashing pumpkins but instead re-invigorating the line up with matt, and melissa and jimmy. or if melissa wasn't available use paz. but pajo may have been the problem.
but all said the zwan lineup and my make believe line up of billy, matt, jimmy, and melissa as the new smashing pumpkins is all talent.

youre welcome.

[bye june]

SP should continue as a power trio with Billy, Jimmy and [hot chick].

[chrisothoulo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsOil_jRsIQ

"the're good people"

[Funbags]

Originally Posted by Ram27

Why did everyone start cheering when Corgan sang "Yesterday..."?

It was literally the first word Billy sang since SP ended. No joke.

[dreams of glass]

Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that Baby Let's Rock! is a better song title than Being Beige?

[Mals Marola]

people sure are disproportionately nostaglic about zwan these days

is it the second-coming of shit-talking i saw from pajo or whoever?

[Elphenor]

Baby Let's Rock was always a decent song with an embarrassing title

[Elphenor]

Vocals are like a million times better than what we've got now

[dreams of glass]

It might be the second best song on MSOTS

[dreams of glass]

http://fc06.deviantart.net/images/i/...headphones.jpg

I like all the artwork for Zwan

[Funbags]

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that Baby Let's Rock! is a better song title than Being Beige?

Honestly, this is more like what I was expecting from Being Beige. Thundering Tommy-like drums? Check. Guitars for miles? Check.

If Baby Let's Rock was released now, everyone would be creaming their jeans.

[dreams of glass]

http://33.media.tumblr.com/c2b67660e...2aiho1_500.jpg

dang

[dreams of glass]

Originally Posted by Funbags

Honestly, this is more like what I was expecting from Being Beige. Thundering Tommy-like drums? Check. Guitars for miles? Check.

If Baby Let's Rock was released now, everyone would be creaming their jeans.

I know right?

[Mals Marola]

damn, that djali zwan cover image is official?

admitted untrue zwan fan if that wasn't obvious

[chrisothoulo]

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that Baby Let's Rock! is a better song title than Being Beige?

Hell no.. i loved swan but that was their worst song by far. Being Beige is great

[The exploding boy]

yeah i never cared about Zwan, i saw them live but spent the whole show trying not to die (seriously it was scary, small venue and crazy pumpkins fan=danger) so i don't remember shit and that' the only time i heard the songs, but i wasn't aware Bolly had written such a shitty song even then.

[Elijah Moon]

I actually really liked the Zwan album, certainly more than anything Billy has done since. I can see how people thought it was a bit soppy with the whole sunshine and love vibe, but it matched my headspace at the time. I was in (largely unrequited) love with someone beautiful, the weather was good, and I think I felt like some neo-hippy/half-hearted Buddhist. Whatever, I liked most of the songs.

edit- I was a bit disappointed that a lot of the best songs I'd heard before the album came out weren't included. But I enjoyed it for what it was.

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by dreams of glass

Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that Baby Let's Rock! is a better song title than Being Beige?

The vocals on that song made me sad that Corgan's voice is such shit now.

Y'all are fucking stupid, just tried to listen to two Zwan songs and it was terrible. Went to Being Beige and it was even a major improvement.

[Mals Marola]

Originally Posted by ninsp

Y'all are fucking stupid, just tried to listen to two Zwan songs and it was terrible. Went to Being Beige and it was even a major improvement.

fucking stupid fucks! i won't argue with that, i did try THINKING of being beige and yep, still just came up with tom tom again

but i really like tom tom

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by Mals Marola

fucking stupid fucks! i won't argue with that, i did try THINKING of being beige and yep, still just came up with tom tom again

but i really like tom tom

Tom Tom is a fantastic song. Probably one of the best post-reunion.

[Funbags]

Originally Posted by ninsp

Tom Tom is a fantastic song. Probably one of the best post-reunion.

The TBK version is terrible. Backwards Clock Society forever.

[dreams of glass]

Tom Tom?
Really?


SHA LA LA LAAAAaaAAAA

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by Funbags

The TBK version is terrible. Backwards Clock Society forever.

no

[Mals Marola]

http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=Y3T_xczFl5A#/6;9