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Old 07-12-2020, 05:41 AM   #1
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Red face American Strummer: Billy's previous two solo albums.

Is it just me, or is it really hard to get past the way Boz plays acoustic now?

It's 100% strum dynamics at all times, and it seems to have started on...American Gothic? I can't remember him power-strumming prior to that.

PROOVE ME WRONG. ALSO SOMEONE ASK HIM ON IG. "WHY U STRUM SO HARD NOW?"

 
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Old 07-12-2020, 07:05 AM   #2
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Old 07-12-2020, 08:32 AM   #3
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we did a whole strumming thread. lasted over 3 pages of little strummer boy jokes.
strumbaline
where boys fear to strum
Strum USA
Window Strum,,,

 
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Old 07-12-2020, 09:32 AM   #4
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Funny but not fair or true. The solo records are good and have some pleasant guitar playing.

 
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Old 07-12-2020, 12:05 PM   #5
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i haven't really noticed because i was too busy cringing at how fucking awful the vocals and lyrics were

 
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Old 07-12-2020, 12:06 PM   #6
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his playing sounds normal? he always strums hard and uses heavy picks

i think it's just the production being shit?

 
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Old 07-12-2020, 12:25 PM   #7
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Ogilala had four songs I dug: "Zowie," "The Processional," "The Spainairds," and "Archer."

The last one is the first WPC/SP release I have not been able to finish from beginning to end.

 
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Old 07-12-2020, 12:48 PM   #8
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I've been going back over Bill's solo material and came to this same thought. What could have caused him to adopt his current method of strumming? It's so rhythmically dull and plodding. There is not one redeeming aspect of Ogilala and Cotillions for me personally. Delving back into the Zwan/Solo material, the acoustic Zwan stuff is some of the best he's ever done.

 
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Old 07-12-2020, 12:50 PM   #9
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Maybe he has arthritis he’s like 70 years old

 
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Old 07-12-2020, 12:58 PM   #10
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Acoustic has always been the weak link across what are otherwise some formidable chops from Bruce C.

There are moments when he has tended towards more intricate stuff, like the finger style songs from MCIS and Djali/Chicago eras, but in general Billy has always been a meh acoustic player. He has never seemed very interested to me in honing an acoustic style of playing, and mainly just brings rock playing to an acoustic guitar. Also his acoustic tones have never been great, dating all the way back to playing an Ovation with gauge 9 strings on SD.

Disarm for example is pretty much in line with the bonehead pounding he performs on Cotillions, but it's elevated by the songwriting and the full instrumentation.

 
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Old 07-13-2020, 02:20 AM   #11
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good thread title

 
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Old 07-13-2020, 11:48 AM   #12
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What could have caused him to adopt his current method of strumming?
it's one of many symptoms of a vast spiritual disconnect between bill and his "inner creative," if you will

 
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Old 07-14-2020, 05:25 AM   #13
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https://youtu.be/vTcM_DZVOHg

 
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Old 07-14-2020, 08:24 AM   #14
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i actually like the guitar melody in this song but the vocal melody is just absolute mush, it's nothing.

 
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Old 07-14-2020, 08:57 AM   #15
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smurfing strumming thread:
http://forums.netphoria.org/showthre...um#post4510989

 
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Old 07-14-2020, 09:19 AM   #16
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good thread title
better then 'Life"s a Strummer?'

 
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Old 07-14-2020, 10:08 AM   #17
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ain't it beautiful tho?

Jeff Shredder & Bill Strummer

 
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Old 07-14-2020, 10:08 AM   #18
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or the expanded super deluxe edition:

Jeff shreds
Bill strums
Jack bates
Mike byrnes

 
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Old 07-14-2020, 11:42 AM   #19
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try again

 
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Old 07-16-2020, 02:43 AM   #27
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I've been going back over Bill's solo material and came to this same thought. What could have caused him to adopt his current method of strumming? It's so rhythmically dull and plodding. There is not one redeeming aspect of Ogilala and Cotillions for me personally. Delving back into the Zwan/Solo material, the acoustic Zwan stuff is some of the best he's ever done.
Even this perennial Mayo performance shows his once-varied strum dynamics, and it's the same style carried through the Sadlands and Gravity demos. His strumming matches his vocal dynamics, which conveys ... EMOTION! I think that's what's missing in his 100% Strum technique. The guitar and vocals aren't working together.


 
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Old 07-16-2020, 07:12 AM   #28
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It's clear what the difference is. He's playing left handed! They all are! That's what's been going wrong all this time. :-)

 
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Old 07-18-2020, 12:11 AM   #29
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It was a phase!

 
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Old 07-18-2020, 12:20 AM   #30
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Bill just furiously strums Dsus2 on literally every song now and throws some of his obtuse blinking with fists level poetry on top and calls it a song. Sometimes he'll mix it up when he's feeling experimental and puts a capo on the 4th fret.

 
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