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Old 07-09-2020, 10:49 AM   #1
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Default Was Cash Car Star ever a good song?

The Adore version sounds like absolute shit, both studio and live, and the Machina II version is butt rock city.

A case could maybe be made for the Jay Leno version, but thatís only because of how ferocious JCís drums are

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 11:02 AM   #2
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You mean always, as in Was Cash Car Star always a good song?

And the answer is yes.

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 12:06 PM   #3
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Was it ever a good song? The answer is NO.


















Because itís a GREAT song.

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 12:16 PM   #4
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I've clenched my gooch as I type this.

Ah! Ah, pa, pa! Just released.

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 01:25 PM   #5
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Has the Adore version been released; other than the remix from the box set?

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 01:42 PM   #6
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not sure but i wouldn't clench my gooch over it

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 01:42 PM   #7
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YES

the lyrics are shit but it's just like Geek in that it's just a way for Jimbo to burn the lies off our souls

a dreamy section would be nice tho



and yes this version is so good it means the answer to your question is always yes

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 01:45 PM   #8
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it's lyrically dumb, but it's intentional (as opposed to the awful lyrics BC writes now)

musically it's a kick in the dick

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 01:56 PM   #9
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if songs were body parts, cash car star would be a butt

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:05 PM   #10
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In that case Because You Are would be a ...

























(wait for it)






















... gooch!!

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 02:34 PM   #11
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if songs were body parts, cash car star would be a butt
I love butts too

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 03:11 PM   #12
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no. it has never been a good song. people get worked up about the intense, excellent drumming, and conflate that with the idea of the song actually being good, which it is decidedly not.

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 03:12 PM   #13
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"CaUsE eVeRyBoDy'S bUsInEsS Is EvErYbOdY's BuSiNeSs"


 
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Old 07-09-2020, 03:18 PM   #14
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it's a good time

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 03:40 PM   #15
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"CaUsE eVeRyBoDy'S bUsInEsS Is EvErYbOdY's BuSiNeSs"

well when you type it like that, anything would look stupid!

e.g.

"YoOoUoO mAkE mE rEeAaL"


 
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Old 07-09-2020, 03:48 PM   #16
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Everybody’s everything is nobody’s nothing.

Staggeringly bad

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 03:50 PM   #17
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So strange that they played it with Kenny

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 03:52 PM   #18
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jimmy keeps convincing me it's a good song.

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 03:56 PM   #19
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So strange that they played it with Kenny
if i happened to, for some odd reason, be watching that video on mute, i'd be almost certain, given kenny's body language, that the drums were making a zippity bop skippity bop kind of a sound

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 04:07 PM   #20
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It’s an ok song. Would’ve been a decent single for airplay in the 2000 alt-rock stakes, better than The Everlasting Gaze for sure.

Despite being kinda bad with cheesy lyrics, it has an energy which works.

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 04:30 PM   #21
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which is more than I could say about your avatar, but ok

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 04:40 PM   #22
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if i happened to, for some odd reason, be watching that video on mute, i'd be almost certain, given kenny's body language, that the drums were making a zippity bop skippity bop kind of a sound
They basically are

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 05:06 PM   #23
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What about the version they were playing live in 2007? I couldn't believe I finally got to see the Smashing Pumpkins with Jimmy in Australia and they trotted out the bizarro Cash Car Star where Jimmy is predominately playing a lame 2/4 beat throughout, so annoying.

So yeah, without Jimmy crushing it, it's not a very good song

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 05:09 PM   #24
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What about the version they were playing live in 2007? I couldn't believe I finally got to see the Smashing Pumpkins with Jimmy in Australia and they trotted out the bizarro Cash Car Star where Jimmy is predominately playing a lame 2/4 beat throughout, so annoying.

So yeah, without Jimmy crushing it, it's not a very good song
The version that was like 10 minutes long? What a nightmare

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 05:54 PM   #25
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this is all good and nice and stuff but i'd way rather talk about how woody STOLE yet ANOTHER AVATAR of mine



 
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:00 PM   #26
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woody, woody, woody, WOODY

woody woody you're gonna CRY

woody, woody, woody, WOODY

woody woody you're gonna DIE

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 06:06 PM   #27
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The lyrics are mostly cringe, but the drumming is pretty good and the song just seems like a pretty cool riff stretched out a bit longer than it should have been. Which if you think about it pretty much sums up SP as a whole, thnx.

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 08:01 PM   #28
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Always seemed to me like it was a song that he/they didn't put a lot of time in for circumstantial reasons.

Adore era, it didn't really fit the album's concept, so it go scrapped, and all we have is a whatever demo from the boxset to check out.

Machina era, just sounds like it needs another week or so to fine-tune the lyrics and tighten up the meandering... but Virgin told Billy to go fuck himself with the double-album thing, so they just banged out whatever rough idea they had and moved on.

I think there's a good song in it somewhere... we just didn't get one.

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 08:32 PM   #29
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it is absolutely not better than Everlasting Gaze wtf

 
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Old 07-09-2020, 08:44 PM   #30
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everlasting gaze chorus > cash car star whole song > everlasting gaze verses > everlasting gaze vocal solo

 
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