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08-14-2008, 08:48 PM | #61 |
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08-15-2008, 08:07 AM | #62 | |
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it's the corporations units shipped vs units sold. and they all want their special editions if they're gonna order a skid of your cds |
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08-15-2008, 08:32 AM | #63 |
someone more...punk rock?
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90s weezer : 00s weezer :: sp : sp2
green album : zeitgeist. sterile imitation of something that used to be good. anyway, in nine years we'll be saying "well, at least it wasn't bill's make believe" |
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08-16-2008, 01:21 AM | #64 | ||
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Siva Geek U.S.A. Silverfuck Jellybelly Fuck You (An Ode to No One) Glass and the Ghost Children Lucky 13 Glass Cash Car Star Jimmy Chamberlain Complex??? Quote:
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08-16-2008, 11:07 PM | #65 | ||
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LOL, I love those hypnotic flash animations. This one is now fucking up my peripheral vision as I just stare at it, BTW. It's not really supposed to work like that! I wonder what would happen if I really did look at this thing when I was tripping balls...I wonder if the warping effect would cancel itself out, or just be unnoticeable? I should have tried that a couple of days ago. Last edited by stumpycat : 08-16-2008 at 11:14 PM. |
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08-17-2008, 12:01 AM | #66 |
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08-17-2008, 12:36 AM | #67 |
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To the OP. Adore was better received by the fans than Machina actually. It also got better reviews. It also sold better than Machina. Most of that was because it was coming off the heels of MCIS. It didn't sell nearly as well as it should have and it was so uncommercial and not aimed at the people who thought they liked the Pumpkins that it hurt their reputation/buzz for when Machina was released. Those people who "thought they liked the Pumpkins" are the population SP lost after Adore, leaving them with the core fans who were prepared for a very different album (it had to be different without Jimmy) and were relatively chill with it all.
There seems to be an odd number of newer fans who really like Adore but besides that I haven't noticed any resurgence in respect for Adore. There's absolutely no comparison between the negativity thrown at Zeitgeist as compared to Adore. So the premise of your question is too far off for anyone to properly answer it. |
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08-17-2008, 01:21 AM | #68 |
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08-17-2008, 01:39 AM | #69 |
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Of course, not now, but back in the day it was viewed somewhat negatively, wasn't it?
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08-19-2008, 08:31 AM | #70 |
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Anything would be reviewed negatively if you released Mellon Collie before it.
Edit: Unless it was like, a Beatles album. Edit Edit: Strawberry (Birthmark) Fields Forever |
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10-06-2010, 08:15 PM | #71 |
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Two years later, does anybody have a more favorable opinion than they did? I think I genuinely like it. Definitely in my top 10 Pumpkins albums.
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10-06-2010, 08:18 PM | #72 |
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10-06-2010, 08:42 PM | #73 |
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now that we're 8 songs into teargarden, zeitgeist sounds like gold. but that's been billy's strategy the past 10 years, release an album so bad the one before it looks like a masterpiece. it just keeps getting worse and worse...
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10-06-2010, 09:16 PM | #74 |
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I don't know.. I'm liking the the 2nd EP so far better than most if not all of Zeitgeist.
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10-06-2010, 10:01 PM | #75 |
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always liked Zeitgeist
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10-06-2010, 10:03 PM | #76 |
ILL KILL UR DOG
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It still sucks but Teargarden sounds like it might be worse after all is said and done
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10-06-2010, 10:06 PM | #77 |
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i really dont think you can even compare the two
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10-06-2010, 11:33 PM | #78 | |
Minion of Satan
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although fellowship does beat a few tracks on zeitgeist, but freak and spangled are two songs the belong with the worst of zeitgeist. |
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10-06-2010, 11:42 PM | #79 |
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10-07-2010, 01:29 AM | #80 |
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zeitgeist will never really get much respect because of the terrible vocal choices made on it, not only are the melodies bad the delivery is very lazy (not even counting how bad the lyrics are). the choir of billy's could have worked if it was mixed better and had more interesting harmonies...
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10-07-2010, 04:23 AM | #81 |
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i think it's all planned. Willie was so frustrated by negative reactions towards ZG that he wants to outturd himself so when TbK gets finished we all end up appreciating ZG the proper way
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10-07-2010, 08:45 AM | #82 |
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10-07-2010, 08:50 AM | #83 |
huh
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10-07-2010, 08:58 AM | #84 |
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Zeitgeist was good, you could tell Billy still REALLY cared at that point.
you could see how absolutely dumbfounded he was when Zeitgeist got the press it did |
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10-07-2010, 10:39 AM | #85 |
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thats true. as many questionable choices were made on ZG, and as 1-dimensional as it was,
it still sounded like something that at least belonged in corgans library... albeit on the bottom rung. honestly, i can't even compute how the man who wrote SD and MCIS is the same man writing TBK. his lyrics haven't been this bad since spiteface. |
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10-07-2010, 10:55 AM | #86 |
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I still hate it just as much. To me, ZG and TbK are the same awkwardly bad musical thread, with tracks differentiated only by the amount and quality of production on them.
Two years later, it's obvious that if Billy has any chance to make challenging, interesting, rewarding music like Adore again, he's not going to take it. The good beginnings of a mature, intelligent direction in new songs from the residencies and the anniversary tour led nowhere. |
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10-08-2010, 12:00 AM | #87 |
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zeitgeist isn't as terrible as everyone makes it out to be, but it's not good. it's just an average rock ablum. it's got some catchy tracks and that's about all. and in 10 years it won't be remembered as anything other than that.
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10-08-2010, 02:53 AM | #88 |
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10-08-2010, 03:42 AM | #89 |
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chillwave is.
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10-08-2010, 03:54 AM | #90 |
Immortal
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chillwave > zeitgeist
this album will be remember in the same way that people remember the second audioslave album. |
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