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Old 02-23-2018, 02:12 PM   #181
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Republicans: Now is not the time to discuss politics, now is the time to mourn! Doing anything else is disrespectful to the victims!
Victims: Hey, can we have some gun laws?
Republicans: Haha, what makes those kids experts on how dangerous guns are, seeing their classmates get pumped full of bullets? Stupid entitled millennials!



"What, pray tell, did these students do to earn their claim to expertise? They were present during a mass shooting, and they have the right point of view, according to the Left."
—Ben Shapiro

It's funny that Shapiro has an entire article about how youth are too naive and irrational to have a say in politics, yet I've never been entirely convinced that Ben Shapiro isn't just three children in a trenchcoat.


 
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:15 PM   #182
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Shapiro is something else

but I don't know if you're just doomed to sillyness by the nature of trying to position as a "conservative intellectual"

great dissecting of the guy in this article: https://static.currentaffairs.org/20...ds-philosopher

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:40 PM   #183
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found out my therapist is seeing multiple children/teacher victims. that's gotta be fucking nuts

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:00 PM   #184
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Republicans:"What, pray tell, did these students do to earn their claim to expertise? They were present during a mass shooting, and they have the right point of view, according to the Left."
—Ben Shapiro
They have at least as much expertise as lawmakers, since mass shootings keep happening.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:25 PM   #185
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reprise, what is the likely line of procedure in Florida with this, will either the entire system what happens when authorities are alerted be adapted or at least checked, or will they simply ask someone to take the blame and step down, and that's that?

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PARKLAND, Fla. — Broward County deputies received at least 18 calls warning them about Nikolas Cruz from 2008 to 2017, including concerns that he "planned to shoot up the school" and other threats and acts of violence before he was accused of killing 17 people at a high school.

The warnings, made by concerned people close to Cruz, came in phone calls to the Broward County Sheriff's Office, records show. At least five callers mentioned concern over his access to weapons, according to the documents. None of those warnings led to direct intervention.
the story goes on and every single sentence is completely surreal to me.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uns/366165002/

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:50 PM   #186
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:54 PM   #187
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from my local news feed

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Old 02-23-2018, 05:55 PM   #188
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Thought this was a solid hot take. 10/10.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:25 PM   #189
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reprise, what is the likely line of procedure in Florida with this, will either the entire system what happens when authorities are alerted be adapted or at least checked, or will they simply ask someone to take the blame and step down, and that's that?



the story goes on and every single sentence is completely surreal to me.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...uns/366165002/
They will heavily blame the security officer who didn't go in and stop him. And the officer should have and totally fucked up, but would he have even stood a chance against an AR-15 with some shitty pistol? I doubt he had anything else.

So many fucking people fucked this up. Henderson Mental Health definitely deserves some of the blame. They are basically the tri-county mental health care system for child protection and violence cases, plus therapy etc for poor people. The fact that they never thought he was a danger after several violent incidents is terrible.

Honestly I feel like the buck stops with the sheriff but since he is a democrat and says all the right things, nothing will happen to him. I will not vote for him again, however.

There were so many chances to get this kid. FBI fucked up, Broward County fuck up, the school fucked up, henderson fucked up. Obviously they need to be able to have a better communication system. Also whatever therapist he saw fucked up by not seeing or reporting that he was a danger to others. I think he saw a therapist recently, too.

If nothing else happens, the way law enforcement and community outreach talks to each other needs to change. And mental health professionals need to be able to ask and act on if their client is known to or admits to having guns. I do not think there is a protocol to do this currently.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:27 PM   #190
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Thought this was a solid hot take. 10/10.
too soon

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:30 PM   #191
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I am just incapable of understanding that this can really happen.

in a country with so many mass and especially school shootings, that literally nothing happens if you and a dozen other people alert authorities EIGHTEEN TIMES over the years - and then 17 people are dead.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:46 PM   #192
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I am just incapable of understanding that this can really happen.

in a country with so many mass and especially school shootings, that literally nothing happens if you and a dozen other people alert authorities EIGHTEEN TIMES over the years - and then 17 people are dead.
We are not a culture of preventative medicine or measures. It pays money to treat illness and it doesn't pay money to prevent it.

I'm a political idiot and that's my cynical take.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:52 PM   #193
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my cynical take will come once I have seen how gun sales in Florida are doing since that shooting.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:54 PM   #194
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I would assume gun sales would go up because the kind of people that buy guns would have fear instilled in them and would want to have a means to "protect themselves"

or they freak out thinking assault weapons will soon be banned and think it might be their last chance to buy them.

source: no idea

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:55 PM   #195
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i'm not a gun nut but i understand the collector mentality

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:56 PM   #196
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exactly. source - every mass shooting of at least the past 5 years where I paid attention. guns sales always go up.

you shoot school kids in elementary school age and the result are bulletproof backpacks being the next hot thing under the Christmas tree. who would want to prevent that? at least one sector of the economy is booming!

okay I am done now.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:58 PM   #197
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yea this stuff isn't fun. i'm here to have fun!

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:58 PM   #198
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slunken, crackpot pundit, signing off.

back to you, dan.

 
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:15 PM   #199
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When I was in college at Duquesne like half our basketball team got shot and I considered participating in the open tryouts. But then I was a lazy sack of shit and didn’t bother. WORTH IT.

 
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Old 02-24-2018, 02:21 AM   #200
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Shapiro is something else

but I don't know if you're just doomed to sillyness by the nature of trying to position as a "conservative intellectual"

great dissecting of the guy in this article: https://static.currentaffairs.org/20...ds-philosopher
This is strange. I quite like Ben Shapiro, actually. I'll do some research of my own, I guess. Dude IS really smart, though. He skipped two grades, got into high school at a very young age, got into UCLA at the age of 16.
It's a good thing he isn't far-right though. He left Breitbart right when Andrew Breitbart died and Steve Bannon joined, he really doesn't like that guy.

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“In my opinion, Steve Bannon is a bully,” he said in a statement at the time, explaining his resignation from Breitbart, “and has sold out Andrew’s mission in order to back another bully, Donald Trump; he has shaped the company into Trump’s personal Pravda.”

 
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Old 02-24-2018, 02:40 AM   #201
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Old 02-24-2018, 02:40 AM   #202
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The social chameleon just received its cue to shift again and maximize acceptance.

 
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Old 02-24-2018, 02:52 AM   #203
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"Maximize acceptance"? You're either really fucking daft or I'm too socially inept to understand that this is a joke or something of the sort.
I'm hoping it's the latter.

You do realize I'm making an argument against them, right?

 
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Old 02-24-2018, 08:26 AM   #204
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Hmm, I'm not immediately sure how to respond. I've been all for this guy so far, but am willing to look into the matter and might possibly experience an evolution of opinion that should prove a little more conducive to coming off as anything other than a viscid half-person with nothing interesting to contribute. Like, imagine an invertebrate sociopath following the wikiHow for ingratiation.


[Insert list of reasons why a positive view of him is at least arguably defensible here. Provide evidence. Demonstrate room for compromise; lessen the need to backflip.]

 
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Old 02-24-2018, 11:52 AM   #205
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I quite like Ben Shapiro, actually
ofc you do because you're stupid

 
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Old 02-24-2018, 11:55 AM   #206
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conservatism is not the new counter culture my brain hurts that's so stupid

 
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Old 02-24-2018, 12:05 PM   #207
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Old 02-24-2018, 12:24 PM   #208
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say something stupid get called stupid no butthurt

 
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Old 02-24-2018, 12:30 PM   #209
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Okay.
Sorry I called you a bitch.

Did you read the article I posted? I feel like that's a fairer take on his career in general. The one you sent is way too one dimensional tbh, the other one highlights both the pros and cons. Dude has done some stupid shit, yeah.

 
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Old 02-24-2018, 12:32 PM   #210
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Gen Z is one the most conservative generations so far
this is outright false

once you get out of the American 4chan fart bubble you put over your head, the trend is overwhelmingly towards the growing generation being more liberal than the last

 
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