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08-05-2014, 12:16 PM | #61 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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yeah, I've read a lot about pirating (music only, I don't know anything about pirating films) and I just don't really buy that it hurts most artists. It might be bad for big record companies which don't understand that their old model of music release and monopolization is archaic, but tbh I view that as a good thing. I've probably spent more money on albums and shows than most people ever will in their entire lives, so I'm not really concerned about it. Also the artists that are the most ardently anti-pirating are also usually the oldest and most establishment artists, which I think is telling.
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08-05-2014, 02:04 PM | #62 |
Virgo
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Can someone pm me an Aegea rip?
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08-05-2014, 02:46 PM | #63 |
Consume my pants.
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08-05-2014, 04:36 PM | #64 |
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Don't PM an Aegea rip I'm sure it sucks
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08-05-2014, 05:28 PM | #65 |
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08-05-2014, 06:19 PM | #66 |
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I for one would like to have a lossless digital source, they can be on cd or sold as flac. I don't want someones crappy vinyl rip from a shitty turn table.
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08-05-2014, 07:13 PM | #67 |
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08-05-2014, 07:19 PM | #68 |
Immortal
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so lost in all the complaining, we finally have the long version of the NEC tracklist. I very much hope this pops up
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08-05-2014, 07:51 PM | #69 |
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If someone's got a lossless rip PM pls?
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08-05-2014, 08:33 PM | #70 |
Virgo
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08-05-2014, 08:53 PM | #71 |
Amish Hoe Fighter
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I'm waiting for all of teargarden to come out before i listen to it again.
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08-05-2014, 08:54 PM | #72 |
Amish Hoe Fighter
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And where is that Aegea rip? I'm trying to get my what.cd account reinstated. Never invite anybody you don't trust. better yet, never invite anybody.
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08-05-2014, 09:18 PM | #73 |
Immortal
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it isnt on what
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08-05-2014, 09:27 PM | #74 |
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that's nuts man
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08-05-2014, 09:27 PM | #75 |
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thinking about shit from that long ago
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08-05-2014, 09:28 PM | #76 |
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you know what i mean?
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08-05-2014, 09:47 PM | #77 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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I'm not big on vinyl rips because I don't like the cracks and pops unless I'm actually listening to a record, but a good vinyl rip is of higher quality than a rip from a CD
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08-05-2014, 11:47 PM | #78 |
Pledge
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cracks and pops are usually caused by shitty equipment/ not cleaning your vinyl, or static discharge. if you do a yinyl rip, its common for people to do tiny pop/filter fixes which fix these.
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08-06-2014, 12:12 AM | #79 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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sure it's stealing, I'm not saying I'm fucking robin hood or something. I'm just saying I don't believe it really hurts most artists at all, and many artists have no problem with it. Again, I have given more of my hard earned money to musical artists than most people ever will in their entire lifetimes. I don't feel bad. There are many artists who I would never have heard if not for the availability of free music online, especially obscure stuff. Then I go to their shows and give them money. Pirating has probably allowed more artists to be readily heard and enjoyed than any model a big corporation has ever dreamed up. Is it breaking the law, no fucking duh. Is it necessarily harmful to artists, no. Does the fact that Don Henley and Lars Ulrich don't want me to do it while sucking the corporate dick and charging their fans $200 to see them live make me want to do it more? absolutely.
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08-06-2014, 12:15 AM | #80 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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bottom line is the entire music industry has been upended and it's not going back no matter how illegal pirating is or how many people get prosecuted or how much lily allen bitches to the press about it. shit is done. it's a new era, and a new model. artists must learn to succeed in the new model, and I think most are doing just fine. maybe it makes me a bad person, but I just don't care if some shithead makes fewer millions of dollars a year or can't buy that new super car because I stole his/her music. and as for small-timers, publicity and being heard is worth far, far more in the scheme of "making it big" than ensuring you can milk $15 out of every person who hears your full album.
the model of hear a single you like on the radio then go pay up to hear the rest really only works for a tiny number of musicians who have the right connections and the right appeal anyway. Even back in the 80s, the success of so many alternative acts was contributed to by unsung superfans making copies of tapes for their friends and shit like that. Last edited by redbreegull : 08-06-2014 at 12:23 AM. |
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08-06-2014, 12:16 AM | #81 |
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08-06-2014, 12:31 AM | #82 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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08-06-2014, 12:32 AM | #83 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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also in the interest of not being a dick, there are those who believe that vinyl and CD quality are not comparable, just different. I personally do not espouse this view, but plurality of opinion is like good and stuff
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08-06-2014, 01:11 AM | #84 |
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jesus fucking christ redpeepull shut the fuck up! are you a sociopath? american psycho?
fuck. you're stealing. plain and simple. it does hurt artists. studies suggest that it doesn't really affect the upper echelon, like madonna, jay z, etc, but it kills the middle acts. the jimmy eat worlds, the pumpkins, calexico, etc. it kills them. takes from their bottom line and for a lot of smaller acts that record doesn't sell, they don't get to make another one bottom line regardless of it's good or bad. youre stealing otherwise what you would be buying if you were a decent person. so go steal music you douche. fuck. i'd guarantee most folks on here download the leaks because theyre fans and then of course buy the records. ugh. |
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08-06-2014, 01:39 AM | #85 |
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Breaking copyright is not the same as theft. I mean, both break a social code, but in one case once you take something and the person who had it no longer has it, in the other, they still have it and you have a copy too. They are both morally wrong, but they aren't equivalent. If sharing information without paying for it was the same as stealing, there wouldn't be libraries.
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08-06-2014, 01:52 AM | #86 |
Pledge
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Libraries paid for the material. as well as the vast sort of legalese that goes with it. In short. Most libraries do not get these crazy specific releases.
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08-06-2014, 12:17 PM | #87 | |
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I hear what you are saying, but the morality of music piracy can no longer be an issue for two reasons 1) It will happen no matter what, the pirates will out-think the RIAA exponentially as technology improves. People copied tapes? OK we'll impose extra tax on blank tapes and let it continue... Napster? OK we'll sue the proprietor of the software but not the actual users... Torrents? OK we'll pressure the ISPs to do something,which they won't because they'll lose their customers. What's next? Your move, RIAA. 2) Piracy has been engrained into the listening-behaviors of the newer generation. I've watched people younger than I who grew up in "The Napster Era" literally expect leaks to happen like clockwork as well as downloading the music first to see if they want to buy it afterall. This is simply how the new generation of listeners consume music: pure entitlement. Artists have to accept this is the reality in 2014. They need to evolve with the technology and the listening behaviors of their audience. They need to realize that, rather fair or not, music itself no longer has perceived value. They need to accept that if you want your music heard, you need to give it away to promote your live show (as opposed to the live show promoting the album). |
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08-06-2014, 12:33 PM | #88 |
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I know that, you know that, but what are the chances that the folks who rip these 60+ vinyl's will know how to do a good vinyl rip?
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08-06-2014, 12:46 PM | #89 |
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08-06-2014, 02:49 PM | #90 | |
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But I did use the internet at school every chance I had to read biographies about my favorite bands and find out about new bands. Other kids would be fucking around doing stupid shit and I would be reading about Green River. I was weird. I would just get my mom to order cds online that I couldn't find at walmart. |
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