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View Poll Results: Rate that CYR!
0 - total garbage, unlistenable, couldnít make it through a single listen 7 9.21%
1 - this is technically music, but you donít like anything about it 4 5.26%
2 - some of the worst music youíve ever heard, you wonít ever listen to it again 6 7.89%
3 - pretty bad album, but at least it has purple blood 9 11.84%
4 - Worse than average, you listened to the whole thing but have no desire to do it again 15 19.74%
5 - Completely neutral, you neither love nor loathe this sound 9 11.84%
6 - Better than average, but only a few songs youíll be returning to 8 10.53%
7 - Super duper album but you wonít be pulling it out unless you are particularly in the mood for it 9 11.84%
8 - great album marred by a few missteps or idiosyncrasies. You will keep listening regularly 6 7.89%
9 - fantastic album, u will get married or renew your vows to it one day 1 1.32%
10 - complete success, on par with golden era SP 2 2.63%
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Old 11-30-2020, 02:28 AM   #121
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man have you heard purple blood? shit's on par with adore.
yeah i've heard it & no it is not

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 02:48 AM   #122
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Is it confirmed there are no acoustic drum sounds on this record? Was that in one of the interviews

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 03:18 AM   #123
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Gettin a wintry snowsparkle kinda bleak kinda frozen vibe off the synthscapes on this. They are good synths. Evocative. Lotta texture existing in the same space

So far for me the story of this album is texture that keeps luring me back in to explore the surroundings of the little hooks that get lodged in my brain. Dopamine and Wrath and Anno Satanas. There are a lot of guileful little hooks and themes in those tracks that get lodged in the brain more than any SP since golden era, probably
Run2me u seem to like the album, ha?
Lots of things to listen to

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 05:01 AM   #124
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ok

either way, it's compressed and processed and sampled to death

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 05:02 AM   #125
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snare sound on shiny 1 -> 2 is like the inverse of the grandiosity from SD -> MCIS

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 07:14 AM   #126
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either way, it's compressed and processed and sampled to death
If he used acoustic on all tracks, I assume they were triggering drum samples In post, rather than live? Anyway, this seems like a bit of a strange experiment to make your acoustic sound like a Roland kit.

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 09:15 AM   #127
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The negativity about this album is really overstated. I keep listening and liking it more and more. The people who say the back half is worse, or just more of the same, aren't giving it a fair shake. The back half is darker, stranger, and has a few really interesting pockets where the instruments truly do shine. It's actually kind of crazy to go back and listen to some of the Teargarden stuff (and yes, earlier poster was right-- EASILY the worst thing he has ever done; even Monuments is clearly better and that album is straight bullshit) and see how cheap and lame the synths sound. Same with Oceania. There's a type of song that he has been trying to write for over ten years now and it's generally terrible (Run2Me is the poster child of this song type) and Cyr is honestly the album where he figures out how that type of song works. I never thought I'd want an album like that, but now that it's here, I'll probably return to it more frequently than any other post 2000 Billy material.



it would have been better if it was 12 or 13 songs long but i've only listened to the whole thing once so what do i know

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 12:38 PM   #128
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I can't even listen all the way through some of these songs and they're all less than 4 minutes long.

If this was some kind of genre exercise and it was 8 songs, I'd probably be more interested, but I find any differences between the songs are minimal.

He should have gone even weirder and goofier I think.

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 01:13 PM   #129
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I got 5 songs in and gave up. Not offensively bad exactly, but it just sounds like a lot of really uninspiring nothing. I’d put it on par with cotillions in that way, which I also couldn’t get through. It’s significantly worse than Shiny 1 but from what I heard still not as bad as Teargarden. It might be slightly edged out by Monuments, making it the second worst LP by the band

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 01:22 PM   #130
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the 8 or so pre-release songs were like little but very loud warnings of "don't listen to this album, don't listen to this album" & i thank the group for this consideration

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 10:05 PM   #131
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I got 5 songs in and gave up. Not offensively bad exactly, but it just sounds like a lot of really uninspiring nothing. Iíd put it on par with cotillions in that way, which I also couldnít get through. Itís significantly worse than Shiny 1 but from what I heard still not as bad as Teargarden. It might be slightly edged out by Monuments, making it the second worst LP by the band
Too bad because the second half of the album has the strongest and most interesting songs and I'm not talking about tyger, tyger. I enjoy the album as a whole but the second half without a doubt gives off the most sp1 vibes. The first half sounds like sp2,3,4+ and future embrace.

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 10:15 PM   #132
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it would have been better if it was 12 or 13 songs long but i've only listened to the whole thing once so what do i know
With all due respect, I don't thing you can fairly appreciate an album or a song by giving it only one listen. Your not a musician are you?

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 10:18 PM   #133
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not really unless ... well ...







does playing your dad's oboe count?

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 10:19 PM   #134
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hot damn purp blood is F I R E

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 10:20 PM   #135
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what do you think, brother ya5h, is purp blood the best song on cyr, best tsp song, or best song of all time?

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 10:32 PM   #136
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what do you think, brother ya5h, is purp blood the best song on cyr, best tsp song, or best song of all time?
It's one of the best off CYR. None of these are in my top ten maybe could change. Like I said before I think it's a very interesting album. Creative no doubt. 10-12 songs it would of been even stronger. But I don't care at this point about a perfectly picked song selection on an album. Im a sp fan so I want every song they can throw at me. Plus you/we are going to get our Mellon Colllie 2 or Machina 3 say maybe we should just take this for what it is. I personally like this band because they do what they want and take risks. You can't say that about many bands. I'd rather this than a band like ac/cd where every album sounds exact the same even with two different singers.

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Old 11-30-2020, 10:38 PM   #137
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ok listening to the second half. i was wrong. shit is solid. haunted is awesome.

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 10:39 PM   #138
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about to start dancing my booty off like linda strawberry listening to the zeitgeist promo

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 10:47 PM   #139
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hot damn purp blood is F I R E
Purple Blood and Telegenix sound like they could be off a lost album from 98-99. I think Telegenix has the best Chorus and melody. Both give me a similar feeling of unrest and sadness with glimpses of pure beauty.

 
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ok listening to the second half. i was wrong. shit is solid. haunted is awesome.
It's a totally different album with headphones. There's a lot more going on than what's on the surface. Starcraft and adrenaline are better than I thought. (I'm sick of spelling them the BC way)

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 11:07 PM   #141
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yeah the second half def grew on me.

love katie's part on black forest black hills. truly a "[glimpse] of pure beauty."


 
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Old 11-30-2020, 11:08 PM   #142
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holy cow i actually like a wpc album


this shit is surreal. wtf.

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 11:08 PM   #143
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Birch Grove been in my head the most today. Damn that’s a powerful song if u let the meanings of the words in your heart

There’s some pain and true emotion on this, that’s what i think saves it from being yet another big willie misadventure. This is a legit SP album, and a good one

Is it on par with golden era? Of course not. But these are essentially different people, a lifetime removed from those days. We still have the warmth of By Starlight live in ‘96 to fuel that nostalgic comfort feeling forevermore. Meanwhile we have this weird new growth, which is pretty exciting

 
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Birch Grove been in my head the most today. Damn thatís a powerful song if u let the meanings of the words in your heart

Thereís some pain and true emotion on this, thatís what i think saves it from being yet another big willie misadventure. This is a legit SP album, and a good one

Is it on par with golden era? Of course not. But these are essentially different people, a lifetime removed from those days. We still have the warmth of By Starlight live in Ď96 to fuel that nostalgic comfort feeling forevermore. Meanwhile we have this weird new growth, which is pretty exciting
I love Birch Grove! I have a friend that's a casual fan that likes disarm because of Billy's raw emotion in that song so I told him to check out Birch Grove because of how stripped down and straight forward and emotional the vocal and lyrics are.

 
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yeah the second half def grew on me.

love katie's part on black forest black hills. truly a "[glimpse] of pure beauty."

Apparently we're listening to the album at the same time lol. While I was driving today I really started appreciating that song. She really helps make this album something more memorable.

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Old 11-30-2020, 11:32 PM   #146
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I foreseen a time without me
So not unlike the trees
I've stood for so long
So long
Shading life inside the falling rain
All alone, in love with age and someone
Someone else
Sundays come and Sundays flee
Sundays wed, won't you stand with me?
Not someone
Not someone else
My seedlings grow and grow
And home is whatever ground they hold
Shading life inside the falling rain
All alone, in love with age and someone
Someone else
But I've grown stronger
As someone
As someone, as someone else
Shading life inside the falling rain
All alone, in love with age and someone
Someone else
Sundays come and Sundays flee
Sundays wed, won't you stand with me?
Not someone
Not someone else
As my seedlings grow, and grow
Towards someone
Towards someone else
The birch grove stands for us



 
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I foreseen a time without me
So not unlike the trees
I've stood for so long
So long
Shading life inside the falling rain
All alone, in love with age and someone
Someone else
Sundays come and Sundays flee
Sundays wed, won't you stand with me?
Not someone
Not someone else
My seedlings grow and grow
And home is whatever ground they hold
Shading life inside the falling rain
All alone, in love with age and someone
Someone else
But I've grown stronger
As someone
As someone, as someone else
Shading life inside the falling rain
All alone, in love with age and someone
Someone else
Sundays come and Sundays flee
Sundays wed, won't you stand with me?
Not someone
Not someone else
As my seedlings grow, and grow
Towards someone
Towards someone else
The birch grove stands for us


Yeah the whole thing is from the heart, u can feel it

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 11:38 PM   #148
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Also, does big willie command me to bang my (meadow) goat(s) on tyger tyger???? That’s pretty wild

 
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Old 11-30-2020, 11:41 PM   #149
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Also, does big willie command me to bang my (meadow) goat(s) on tyger tyger???? Thatís pretty wild
It's a wild song! Hey was it announced what song they're playing on Fallon tonite?

 
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It's a wild song! Hey was it announced what song they're playing on Fallon tonite?
Donít believe ive seen this, hoping for a couple songs

 
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