Mellon Collie artwork inspired by old engraving

where is me · 11-14-2011, 10:13 AM

Don't know if this link has already been made.

I came across a famous engraving by the artist Albrecht Dürer. It is made in 1514 and subject of many interpretations. What struck me were the seemingly resemblances with the album Mellon Collie.

There is the title of this artwork "Melencolia I"

And secondly, a lot of symbols used in the booklet from the album can be seen in it.

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9816/symbols.jpg

The hourglass, the ladder, the cherub, the keys (hanging at the skirt) and the skull (reflected in the block).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...8Durero%29.jpg

During recording Billy was inspired by a lot of esoteric texts. And I think he used all sorts of art and symbolism in the album, including this engraving.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melencolia_I

where is me · 11-14-2011, 10:39 AM

Another piece of art with possible resemblances is Flammarion.

Symbols that can be seen in both artworks:

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8194/symbols2.jpg

http://www.thejourneyedsoul.com/flam...ut_the_one.jpg

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammarion_woodcut

where is me · 11-14-2011, 11:09 AM

Clearly most of the symbols are taken directly from the Freemasons:

http://whatisthepyramid.com/wp-conte...blems1874b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1368/...dafe6602ee.jpg

amoergosum · 11-14-2011, 11:12 AM

The inspiration for the music video was "Le Voyage dans la lune" (1902)
of course >>>

myosis · 11-14-2011, 01:36 PM

that's because billy wanted unsuspecting teenagers to get tattoos of freemason symbols.

Fonzie · 11-14-2011, 01:48 PM

this is like 1999 all over again.

Kahlo · 11-14-2011, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonzie

this is like 1995 all over again.

Fixed.

Ihaguitar · 11-14-2011, 03:38 PM

If only it was 1995 again...

Trotskilicious · 11-15-2011, 01:21 AM

...we'd have to go through Limp Bizkit once more

stumpycat · 11-15-2011, 02:05 AM

Believe it or not, in the 1700s they had their own version of Wingdings. There were books back then full of stock symbols that were something like clipart today... and a lot of masonry symbols seem to be lifted from these images. Many of the military medals and service badges in western countries are also derived from these symbols.

slunken · 11-15-2011, 02:30 AM

you make it sound like such uninformed decision making

Kahlo · 11-15-2011, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumpycat

Believe it or not, in the 1700s they had their own version of Wingdings. There were books back then full of stock symbols that were something like clipart today... and a lot of masonry symbols seem to be lifted from these images. Many of the military medals and service badges in western countries are also derived from these symbols.

Yes, there were such a thing as stock printing blocks. Hence the endless repetition of symbols.

TommyB · 04-01-2012, 08:15 AM

O wow look @ that lolx3

how come my posts get deleted what sense does that make lolx4

Funky_Gibbon · 04-01-2012, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

...we'd have to go through Limp Bizkit once more

Knowing what we do now if Limp Bizkit was the pinnacle of shit we'd have to endure we'd all be deliriously happy.

Trotskilicious · 04-01-2012, 06:43 PM

i kinda think it is so far

duovamp · 04-01-2012, 07:27 PM

OMFG NO WAI

AND DO U THINK MACHINA IS INSPIRED BY WILLIAM BLAKE?! WOULDN'T THAT BE THE TITS

emilem · 04-01-2012, 07:30 PM

lip bizkit werre ok they had guitars its legit k thx bibuy

dazzargh · 04-12-2012, 06:29 PM

agree - just fred durst was a knob

Skradgee · 04-12-2012, 06:38 PM

Is. They're still around, yo. Have you heard their song Douchebag? It's good. 4 real, yo. Wes kills it.

Trotskilicious · 04-12-2012, 06:41 PM

die, all of you

11-14-2011, 10:13 AM	#1
where is me Demi-God Posts: 319	Mellon Collie artwork inspired by old engraving Don't know if this link has already been made. I came across a famous engraving by the artist Albrecht Dürer. It is made in 1514 and subject of many interpretations. What struck me were the seemingly resemblances with the album Mellon Collie. There is the title of this artwork "Melencolia I" And secondly, a lot of symbols used in the booklet from the album can be seen in it. http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9816/symbols.jpg The hourglass, the ladder, the cherub, the keys (hanging at the skirt) and the skull (reflected in the block). http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...8Durero%29.jpg During recording Billy was inspired by a lot of esoteric texts. And I think he used all sorts of art and symbolism in the album, including this engraving. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melencolia_I

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11-14-2011, 10:39 AM	#2
where is me Demi-God Posts: 319	Another piece of art with possible resemblances is Flammarion. Symbols that can be seen in both artworks: http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8194/symbols2.jpg http://www.thejourneyedsoul.com/flam...ut_the_one.jpg Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammarion_woodcut

11-14-2011, 11:09 AM	#3
where is me Demi-God Posts: 319	Clearly most of the symbols are taken directly from the Freemasons: http://whatisthepyramid.com/wp-conte...blems1874b.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1368/...dafe6602ee.jpg

11-14-2011, 11:12 AM	#4
amoergosum Minion of Satan Posts: 6,014	The inspiration for the music video was "Le Voyage dans la lune" (1902) of course >>>

11-14-2011, 01:36 PM	#5
myosis Minion of Satan Location: the institute Posts: 6,421	that's because billy wanted unsuspecting teenagers to get tattoos of freemason symbols.

11-14-2011, 01:48 PM	#6
Fonzie Dute of Seven Y's Location: Mr. C's garage Posts: 7,764	this is like 1999 all over again.

11-14-2011, 03:38 PM	#8
Ihaguitar Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,359	If only it was 1995 again...

11-15-2011, 01:21 AM	#9
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	...we'd have to go through Limp Bizkit once more

11-15-2011, 02:05 AM	#10
stumpycat Apocalyptic Poster Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 3,088	Believe it or not, in the 1700s they had their own version of Wingdings. There were books back then full of stock symbols that were something like clipart today... and a lot of masonry symbols seem to be lifted from these images. Many of the military medals and service badges in western countries are also derived from these symbols.

11-15-2011, 02:30 AM	#11
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	you make it sound like such uninformed decision making

04-01-2012, 08:15 AM	#13
TommyB Banned Posts: 32	O wow look @ that lolx3 how come my posts get deleted what sense does that make lolx4

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Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	i kinda think it is so far

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duovamp Brazilian Blouselord Location: heavy metal pool party Posts: 35,781	OMFG NO WAI AND DO U THINK MACHINA IS INSPIRED BY WILLIAM BLAKE?! WOULDN'T THAT BE THE TITS

04-01-2012, 07:30 PM	#17
emilem Demi-God Posts: 260	lip bizkit werre ok they had guitars its legit k thx bibuy

04-12-2012, 06:29 PM	#18
dazzargh Amish Rake Fighter Posts: 20	agree - just fred durst was a knob

04-12-2012, 06:38 PM	#19
Skradgee Boardcaster Location: reporting live Posts: 3,854	Is. They're still around, yo. Have you heard their song Douchebag? It's good. 4 real, yo. Wes kills it.

04-12-2012, 06:41 PM	#20
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	die, all of you