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11-17-2012, 04:09 PM | #1 | ||||
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Another Jewish-Palestinian conflict thread
http://www.btselem.org/topic/gaza_strip
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No images on television like this: http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/world/...ike/index.html http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...al-gallery.jpg http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/ass...al-gallery.jpg Here's the statistics: http://www.btselem.org/israeli_civil..._missiles#data Quote:
http://imeu.net/engine2/uploads/2/is...-ocha-2007.pdf http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...anconflict.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...anconflict.jpg |
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11-17-2012, 09:42 PM | #2 |
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fuck Israel
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11-17-2012, 09:48 PM | #3 |
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Most of you are political knuckledragging morons being easily jedi-mind tricked into avoiding the government and its tryannical momentum.
Its not that I think RP is the second coming of anything, it's just that the old man is the only one talking about the issues that matter. So, of course, the kleptocrats with their levers of control have done everything they can do diminish the man, including fooling you dipshits to focus on the wrong things. But its within the ranks of the right that most of the work against Paul is being done: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-...ke-unless-hit/ This "Iran will not strike first unless provoked" stance is the same position Paul has been touting. He's been touting it as a referendum against the neo-cons within the Republican Party that are frothing at the mouth to start a war with Iran. Everyone from Hannity to Limbaugh to O'Reilly to Micheal Savage have called Paul's foreign policy stance regarding Iran "nuts", yet it's the same position as the chief intelligence officer of Defense. Not to mention an Army leader recently telling the Rep. candidates to cool the war with Iran rhetoric. Not to mention the CIA saying to Isreal don't strike first without our consent, else you're on your own. These are all at least reasonable stances coming from the military and CIA, the same as Ron Paul's, yet within the establishment right he is vilified for the same views. Divide and Conquer at its finest...and it doesn't just hurt the Rep. party, it screws all of us. You think any of those blowhards on the right will credit Paul with the reasoned opinion on Iran? no. The mission is to diminish the man as much as possible so that his views don't hit the mainstream. He's the only real anti-establishment |
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11-17-2012, 09:49 PM | #4 |
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Essentially its a proxy war amongst the major powers that the NWO gang want to spread across the region and into a full fledged war with Iran and Isreal as the centerpieces of it. I never said the President would announce sending in ground troops in some address. In fact I made a clear distinction that they couldn't call them ground troops but would put that stage of the operation under some humanitarian mission banner (to bypass the congressional requirement).
anyway, Qaddafi is still standing and flexing whatever muscle he has. He's not playing the NWO gangster game the way the NWO gangsters want him to (by just leaving or dropping dead preferably). In one way shape or form, Russia and China are arming Libya while NATO is supporting the rebels (which btw, are full of Al-Queda types that we know support for this cause, but want to get rid of in the broader context of the war on terror (It's not supposed to make sense and it would be better for the NWO agenda if you just glossed over this glaring hypocrisy). |
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11-17-2012, 09:51 PM | #5 |
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How bout we stop with these Religions that keep telling their believers they're the "Chosen Ones"...
Judaism, Catholicism, Islam....Each have their notion of living a certain way in which "God" will reward you in some fashion, like, feel empowered to live in a certain Holy Land near Jerusalem. Or, be one of 144,000 Catholics chosen to live with Jesus in the afterlife, or hang out with 72 virgins after some martydom killings. It's all complete and utter bullshit but I don't know how the world works itself out from under this mess. In the meantime...Isreal screwed the pooch on this one...regardless of justification, they handled this wrong (unless of course they wish to start a war). Calling the people on the boat mercenaries is a bit of a stretch when they didn't have any guns. Any Mercenary worth his salt would be one with a machine gun, not steak knives. So Isreali claims are hollow and potentially false. This entire operation reeks of the higher ups wanting to foment a war with Iran...it's their last card to play before they (the Bilderburg banking elite) get found out and have their heads put on pitchforks by the commons. |
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11-17-2012, 09:52 PM | #6 |
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Dim view of Isreal? O.K. So why defend Iran regarding Isreal?
Why are you anti-Isreal, as you said? You buying that anti-Zionist rhetoric out there? It has to do with what side your choosing re: Iran and Isreal. Saying Iran's saber rattling is childish is a nice one liner, you got anything else? For those of you in love with Iran and it's wonderful theocratic government, watch this and dream your in the podium sucking the man's dick while he acts like a "child". |
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11-17-2012, 10:00 PM | #7 |
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fuck israel
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11-17-2012, 10:18 PM | #8 |
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The whole country, hm?
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11-17-2012, 10:28 PM | #9 |
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Evacuate the women and children and nuke the Middle East
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11-17-2012, 10:31 PM | #10 |
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11-17-2012, 11:21 PM | #11 |
Shut the fuck up!
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Yo, they shot first
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11-17-2012, 11:24 PM | #12 |
Shut the fuck up!
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I listen to NPR. That's fair and balanced right
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11-17-2012, 11:48 PM | #13 |
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obviously I don't hate all Israelis I don't even hate Mormons
I do in general think fuck Israel though, more so than Hamas, because the Israeli government is the obvious aggressor basically raping and pillaging lands that have been in the hands of Palestinians for ages. Israeli is now attacking civilian targets... in terms of tactics, both sides are as bad as each other, but Israel has sown a lot more death and destruction |
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11-17-2012, 11:51 PM | #14 |
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Obviously you don't know what you are talking about, so stfu.
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11-18-2012, 12:10 AM | #15 |
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lol ok dipshit
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11-18-2012, 12:20 AM | #16 | |
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11-18-2012, 12:22 AM | #17 |
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and pavementune if you're implying that Israel are the "good guys" then you're a moron
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11-18-2012, 12:40 AM | #18 |
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alright, PLO then. Hamas is just the militant wing of the party, I don't think it's really that easy to separate them... I totally agree that they are assholes, but I feel like it's the same thing as saying damn those fucking violent extremist native americans who attacked the US!!!
like yeah, I think targeting civilians is deplorable coming from any side, but on the flip side of that coin, when you are occupying land that has belonged to someone else for much longer than living memory and turning them out of their homes and shit on the reg what the fuck do you expect |
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11-18-2012, 12:46 AM | #19 |
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I kinda think that the rest of the world should just turn its back on these guys and let them sort it out themselves, like they've been trying to for thousands of years already. There is no solution that anyone else can provide because both sides think that the rest of the world are idiots anyway. So we should just be like ok whatever. See how well you get on without us idiots. And wash our hands of it. Not our fight, not our problem.
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11-18-2012, 12:48 AM | #20 |
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11-18-2012, 12:49 AM | #21 |
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Use your own then.
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11-18-2012, 12:52 AM | #22 |
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What for? To engage in a discussion with rbg?
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11-18-2012, 12:57 AM | #23 | |
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11-18-2012, 12:58 AM | #24 |
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logicians have a term for voicing opposition to something but refusing to participate in an argument about it
invincible ignorance |
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11-18-2012, 01:04 AM | #25 |
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11-18-2012, 01:04 AM | #26 |
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Participating in an argument? Like "fuck Israel"?
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11-18-2012, 01:07 AM | #27 |
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i think he did the right thing
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11-18-2012, 01:08 AM | #28 |
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11-18-2012, 01:14 AM | #29 |
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Israel is a rogue state whose tactics are quasi-terroristic and reminiscent of the behavior of the US CIA in the 50s and 60s. They are an occupying government deeply prejudiced against the Palestinians. If this was an issue of two rival states duking it out, I might be more inclined to say fuck both these dickheads, but as it is Israel does not believe Palestinians have the same rights their own people do. They do not believe the Palestinians have the right of self-determination and self-sovereignty... I mean, last week Netanyahu vowed to disassemble the Palestinian government if they are granted statehood
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11-18-2012, 01:14 AM | #30 |
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Hamas is apparently using rackets from Iran... and Netanyahu is in the middle of his election campaign (and an insane piece of shit imo)... and I have no idea how realistic it is to hope that Hamas agrees on a truce, since Gaza is in ruins.
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