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11-15-2018, 06:18 PM | #31 |
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When the topic turns to the bassist, Corgan becomes uneasy. He quickly downplays her role in the band’s creative process. “Her role was to contribute to the aesthetic vision,” he says. “She obviously would play when we would play and when we rehearsed and made decisions about songs. So. So let’s call it ‘Phase One’: These are the songs. This is what we’re going to do. After that, most times she wouldn’t even be there because it was just understood she couldn’t play to the level. ...” He pauses, looks down in annoyance, and adds, “Ugh, don’t print that because it will just start the circus all over again.”
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11-15-2018, 06:21 PM | #32 |
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I can't believe he drives a white Escalade. Barf.
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11-15-2018, 06:22 PM | #33 |
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Do you think Billy has ever said "I was wrong" once in his life?
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11-15-2018, 06:26 PM | #34 |
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11-15-2018, 06:27 PM | #35 |
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11-15-2018, 06:33 PM | #36 |
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11-15-2018, 06:36 PM | #37 |
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gotta have somethin' for Mr Choo Choo to play his Backseat Scrabble in comfortably
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11-15-2018, 06:41 PM | #38 |
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A fresh angle for a journalist to take on the Pumpkins would be a combination of "how does Billy Corgan feel about his relationship with his audience and the press" and "can he comment on why D'arcy isn't here"
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11-15-2018, 07:03 PM | #39 |
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What I don't get is why nobody who has interviewed Billy has directly quoted the text messages to him. Every interview with him the interviewers just vaguely ask him about why she's not there. The way we can get closer to the truth is for Billy to actually walk through the timeline and communication with D'arcy, like she herself did to share her side. What happened between discussions about financial splits (and D'arcy not being happy with Billy changing what he'd originally said) and him giving her the guest role offer? Did he not like the way she was negotiating, and that's what really led to his minimal offer?
His guest role pitch like Steven Adler was a bad one too, because Adler performed great, but they never offered him an increased role, so he got pissed off and cut ties with GNR again. Adler also barely got paid anything, so D'arcy as well would have probably gotten a minimal offer compared to what James and Jimmy were getting, which was already less than she had expected. |
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11-15-2018, 07:13 PM | #40 |
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If this "new band harmony" produces garbage like Oh So Shitty and Bright, then they need some drama.
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11-15-2018, 07:23 PM | #41 |
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Billy would never sit there and let someone quote the text messages to him, are you kidding? He'd lose his fucking mind and end the interview immediately on grounds of not being respected.
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11-15-2018, 07:30 PM | #42 | |
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All of the texts are related to a business negotiation as well, it's not like it's Billy and D'arcy talking about something super personal Billy was going through. |
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11-15-2018, 09:15 PM | #43 |
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there's most likely a paper to sign with what you can and cannot ask. that's why everyone dances around d'arcy subject so much.
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11-15-2018, 10:06 PM | #44 |
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"A well-filtered photo and a couple interviews with third-tier websites does not a touring musician under 2018 rules make."
So we should better trust the mostly unfiltered photo, his buddy Mancow Muller had posted. And Corgan would only have seen D'arcy to be contributing for the tour. |
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11-15-2018, 10:08 PM | #45 | |
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11-15-2018, 10:37 PM | #46 |
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11-15-2018, 10:55 PM | #47 | |
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Long ago, my cousin's fiance used to work at a radio station, and he got to interview Billy. One of my cousin's fiance's superiors sort of had it in for him and was a bit jealous he didn't get the interview, so he fed him some interview questions meant to be read. So of course, he sits down with Billy, and the first question he asks, read from the sheet provided: "So Billy, what kind of razors do you use to shave your head"? Billy hops and says "THIS INTERVIEW IS OVER! GET THIS FUCKIN GUY OUTTA HERE." And that was that. |
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11-15-2018, 11:30 PM | #48 | |
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11-15-2018, 11:59 PM | #49 |
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11-16-2018, 12:03 AM | #50 |
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11-16-2018, 12:09 AM | #51 |
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This quote from the interview was the first time I've ever known him to acknowledge that Pumpkins 2.0 was, in his mind, never as good as Pumpkins 1.0, just like most fans have always said:
"Because, of course, at times I had to rationalize it like, ‘Well, this is just as good,’ or ‘It’s just as good but in a different way.’ Or ‘I’m trying to move on with my life. Everybody else should move on.’ Whatever you say to just get yourself down the road." Thus, the truth comes out: the guy has been all talk for some time now. It's never been "the best lineup we've ever had!" nor "the best music we've ever been making!" He only claimed that over the years to lie to himself so that he didn't lose his mind over losing the original lineup. Finally, straight from his mouth. |
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11-16-2018, 02:05 AM | #52 |
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11-16-2018, 02:12 AM | #53 |
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11-16-2018, 02:17 AM | #54 |
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11-16-2018, 02:18 AM | #55 |
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also, i don't read anymore interviews of this lunatic anymore. i've heard all the bullshit before. it's a tired narrative
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11-16-2018, 02:33 AM | #56 |
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I watched the Joe Rogan Billy Corgan interview a while back, and I felt like I got caught up to speed on his views. Every subsequent interview has been more of the same, self important bullshit.
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11-16-2018, 02:34 AM | #57 |
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11-16-2018, 09:51 AM | #58 |
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