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07-01-2007, 03:59 AM | #151 | |
Ownz
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07-01-2007, 04:12 AM | #152 |
Starbucks addicted minion
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the album has some great moments
and some bad ones |
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07-01-2007, 04:30 AM | #153 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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After a couple of listens, my SP album preference is:
MCIS SD Pisces Iscariot Zeitgeist Gish Adore Machina II Machina I |
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07-01-2007, 04:38 AM | #154 |
Demi-God
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yes, let's all rank a handfull of listens to those million times we heard the old albums
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07-01-2007, 04:38 AM | #155 |
Virgo
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"I am blown in a very good way."
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07-01-2007, 04:45 AM | #156 |
Ownz
Location: mississippi
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*Zeitgeist Anonymous*
"Hello, my name is Mark and i can't stop listening to Zeitgeist" HI MARK! |
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07-01-2007, 04:50 AM | #157 |
Virgo
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(intones)
hiii maaaark EDIT: BTW, i am on listen #2 |
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07-01-2007, 04:53 AM | #158 | |
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07-01-2007, 04:54 AM | #159 |
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I'm relatively new to this board but I've been a pretty serious fan since SD. I don't feel like I'm too biased by excitement because while I thought Zeitgeist would be decent, I didn't expect it to be anywhere near SP's previous works. I'm impressed that Billy was able to create some really solid songs without just regurgitating the 90's sound.
I'm not gonna attempt to rank all of the albums, but in my opinion, Zeitgeist is right in the middle of the pack after my first listen. This definitely seems like the kind of album that will get better with more spins. And I really like For God and Country... melodically, it's one of the more intense songs on the album. The addition of the piano and synths adds a pretty dark feeling to the song in my opinion. I recommend listening to the album with quality headphones, cranked up as loud as you can stand... it really adds to the effect of the layered vocals and draws you into the album. I dig them a lot. I can honestly say that there isn't a single song on here that I dislike. 4.5/5.0 |
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07-01-2007, 05:11 AM | #160 | |
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07-01-2007, 05:13 AM | #161 |
Oblivious Virgin
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I could definitely use a hug.
hope the album will grow on me. |
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07-01-2007, 05:14 AM | #162 |
Demi-God
Location: Pittsburgh
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That solo in bring the light around 2:10 kills me....I wish there were about 14 more songs on this album
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07-01-2007, 05:17 AM | #163 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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my review
dc 9/10 7 shades 9/10 orchid 8/10 thats the way 1/10 tarantula 10/10 starz 10/10 usa 10/10 - its epic i didnt think he could do it i was wrong (maybe its the chambs drums) neverlost 2/10 bring the light - 8/10 ( i had this a 6 then the guitar solo burned my lies out) cmon - 9/10 - what a fucking surprise that was!!! so much energy forgotten country - 10/10 - where the fuck did this come from?? pomp circumference - 6/10 - meh i couldnt be more happy with the record favorite song = starz hated song = thats the way (by far the worst song on the record) surprise song = cmon lets go, god and country bleh song = neverlost epic = us Last edited by andrewface : 07-01-2007 at 05:35 AM. |
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07-01-2007, 05:19 AM | #164 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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Doomsday Clock = 2/5
7 Shades of black = 4/5 Bleeding the Orchid = 5/5 Thats the way = 5/5 Tarantula = 4/5 Starz = 3.5/5 United States = 4/5 Neverlost = 4/5 Bring the light = 4/5 (might be 5 if he wasnt singin about jebus. Come on (lets go) = 3.5.5 God and Country = 2/5 pomp and circumstance = 4/5 |
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07-01-2007, 05:23 AM | #165 |
Pledge
Location: Belgium
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Great album! Sometimes I hear tfe, but yes it's definitely a good album. Probably it will get better and better after couple of times.
damn, bring the light rocks so much! |
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07-01-2007, 05:31 AM | #166 |
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Doomsday Clock - 3/5
7 Shades of Black - 2.5/5 Bleeding the Orchid - 3/5 That's the Way (My Love Is) - 3.5/5 Tarantula - 4/5 Starz - 3.5/5 United States - 3/5 Neverlost - 2/5 Bring the Light - 4/5 (Come On) Let's Go! - 3.5/5 For God and Country - 3.5/5 Pomp and Circumstances - 5/5 Pomp and circumstances gives me goosebumps |
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07-01-2007, 05:34 AM | #167 | |
Ownz
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07-01-2007, 05:44 AM | #168 |
Demi-God
Location: Pittsburgh
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you don't want to be right
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07-01-2007, 05:58 AM | #169 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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*Keanu Reeves' "whoa"* This album definately caught me off guard. Here are my thoughts after 1½ spins..
pros: -C'mon let's Go gave me the biggest grin I've had because of music in a long long time. That breakdown part where Billy alone plays the main riff palm muted (?).. chills. This is classic Corgan guitarwise. The main riff is infectious as fuck and continues to grind me further into dust. Zeroesque coolness oozes through. -Bring the Light. Bollster's Brian May solo annihilates. I love the verses in this one. The first verse especially gave me goosepumps. Not sure about the backing vocals on the chorus though.. -7 Shades Of Black. Catchiest vocal lines on the whole album. Brutal guitars. I can sense a Tony Iommi influence here in parts. -The new horror score-ish piano bit in God & Country. Way better than the acoustic live version (which I liked). -Jimmy is absolutely flawless on this one. No complaints what-so-ever. -Orchid will be considered a classic amongst SP fans for years to come. This is as good as it gets. I dug the church hymnesque feel on the layered vocals. Cons: -The chorus in Tarantula seems forced and awkward. Not a big fan of the lyrics on this one either. -I still prefer the way Lisa & Ginger sing the choruses in Orchid. I shall review further after a couple of listens.. |
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07-01-2007, 06:25 AM | #170 |
Amish Rake Fighter
Location: Alton, Hampshire, UK
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There is a good album hiding behind the shitty shitty production.
I like the first 7 tracks alright but the rest are just way below par considered previous offerings. pomp and circumstance almost made me angry thats how bad the song is... Its an alright album but has by no means made me smile from within like previous pumpkins albums have. 5/10 |
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07-01-2007, 07:03 AM | #171 |
Ownz
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shitty production? that's an interesting opinion you got there... well, not really.
IMO the production of this album is awesome. it sounds real and risky. i can listen to it and actually imagine them playing it in a room. it captured the live feeling very well and it's not over-produced like machina was. |
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07-01-2007, 07:10 AM | #172 | |
Amish Rake Fighter
Location: Alton, Hampshire, UK
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It doesn't sound risky... it sounds like an idea gone wrong I can also imagine 40 billy corgans singing in a booth... layers just suck |
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07-01-2007, 07:24 AM | #173 |
Pledge
Location: whinerville, USW
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check the jimmy fuck up on the snare in neverlost (2:15-2:17)
and what is that pixies (where is my mind) riff doing in For God And Country (2:06) |
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07-01-2007, 07:26 AM | #174 |
Minion of Satan
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What's wrong with 40 billy corgans singing in a booth man? Netphoria was founded on the freedom of a man to have as many dopplegangers as he wants.
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07-01-2007, 07:36 AM | #175 |
Demi-God
Location: Scotland
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God damn this album is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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07-01-2007, 07:38 AM | #176 | |
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07-01-2007, 07:43 AM | #177 |
Demi-God
Location: Scotland
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The issues with vocal levels in the songs is soon forgotten when you digest the album a few times and realise the high quality of music throughout the 'Geist
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07-01-2007, 07:46 AM | #178 |
Demi-God
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Umm how good is Bring The Light. Very good. Like really fucking stupidly good! YEAAAH!
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07-01-2007, 08:06 AM | #179 |
Oblivious Virgin
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I really miss that little guitar melody on Starz, but otherwise it's a great song whoah at the power in the chorus.
Second verse of BTO when he sings "one by one" ohh chills so fucking good. Can't understand that people complain and say that That's the Way is to popish and sounds like Zwan. I mean do you guys even like SP? Some of thier greatest songs are way poppier than this one 1979, Perfect, Try, Try, Try and 33 just naming a few. And this song is way closer sounding to songs like Home, Real Love etc so i think you should complain and say it's sounds like a Machina song instead. I love TFE and all the electronics songs on Adore, but I have to say For God And Country was way better acoustic live. That's the biggest dissappointment on Zeitgeist. I think Pomp + C is gonna grow on people, it actually has a good feeling and a catchy melody if you listen to it more. Wow the riff in Come On Let's Go!! It's so much teasing with Zero and I love it! Tarantula is still a great great song and it's so classic pumpkins in the end when the music get's more quiet and then it gets loud again. Reminds me a bit of Siva. |
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07-01-2007, 08:08 AM | #180 |
Minion of Satan
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Caliphorina-
Many people are of this opinion. Some of the vocal mixes are way too elevated. The vocals in a few of the songs drown out the music completely. It's not a slight against the band just whomever engineered the track (and I'm guessing the same person engineered those 3 or 4 songs) |
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