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11-14-2011, 06:26 AM | #1 |
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Will Oceania be better than Chinese Democracy?
This is not about Guns N' Roses/Axle Rose but this is the best thing to compare Oceania to imho. You've got two genuises (in most people's opinions) leading bands with the same old name but with the two frontmen being the only original member remaining in each case with essentially completely new bands backing them. Also, in both cases the old front men are leading both bands towards more and more of a synth-based, "computer processed" sound compared to the early days (with most fans disliking it in both cases). That's an interesting parallel to consider as well imho.
IMHO, Chinese Democracy destroys Oceania so far and Oceania has no chance in this battle. I must say it's not really fair because Axle Rose had a superstar talent in Buckethead helping him with most of his album and Billy Corgan doesn't have anything like that. Last edited by morespsoon : 11-14-2011 at 07:38 AM. |
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11-14-2011, 08:00 AM | #2 |
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11-14-2011, 10:02 AM | #3 |
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11-14-2011, 10:17 AM | #4 |
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Axl Rose sounds like a 12 year old girl choking on a brillo pad.
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11-14-2011, 07:17 PM | #6 | |
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If you're implying that recorded songs can't be compared to live versions of new songs I don't agree because it's usually not hard to project what a studio version will sound like (more or less) based on live versions of songs. There are always exceptions to that of course but generally it's pretty fair to project like that. The Billy Corgan/Axle Rose synth sound parallel is very interesting, why has it happened in both cases especially when in both cases it goes against fans wishes? I find that fascinating, you don't think it's interesting? |
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11-14-2011, 07:26 PM | #7 |
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i like that song "Better"
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11-14-2011, 11:31 PM | #9 |
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11-15-2011, 11:44 AM | #10 | |
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11-15-2011, 06:39 PM | #11 |
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In what way is Axl Rose a genius? or Slash for that matter? All I hear is a group that jumped on the hair metal / glam metal bandwagon. It's not like G&R are Van Halen.
Billy and Jimmy are arguably geniuses. |
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11-15-2011, 06:51 PM | #12 |
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11-16-2011, 12:04 AM | #13 |
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Axl rose is a great songwriter and has one of the best voices to come out in rock and roll in the past 30 years.
Nothing to snooze at. Corgans written some gems but hes also written a lot of stinkers too. So I dont think either of them are really geniuses. |
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11-16-2011, 12:53 AM | #14 |
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It's not the quantity of good music versus bad music that makes b0lly a genius, it's the sheer quality of the good music. Classic Smashing Pumpkins were one of the greatest rock bands in history. Totally different than any other band. A truly unique musical engine. Guns and Roses sucks dick first of all. Their "good" music is over the top pop hair metal cashing in at the tail end of the movement. The most interesting thing about them is Slash, and he's not as good a guitar player is Corgan, and he's also about 10 times less original.
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11-16-2011, 01:00 AM | #15 |
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wu lyf has a good album out have any of you heard it
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11-16-2011, 01:02 AM | #16 |
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by the way neither of those guys are musical geniuses
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11-16-2011, 01:02 AM | #17 |
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I agree Corgan is a guitar god but he sure doesn't seem to utilize it in his new material. But he still rips it live so I dunno. Maybe the guys just lazy when it comes to writing new face melting guitar parts... Yeah yeah yeah "song for a son" solos all right. But it sounds like a harsh Slash sorta guitar solo speaking of slash. |
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11-16-2011, 02:08 AM | #19 |
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And many people say SP was just cashing in at the tail end of the alternative/grunge boom. Still doesn't detract from the music being kick ass. Didn't Billy say he was very aware of what was popular and maybe focused on it too much during the making of Siamese Dream? You can definitely hear the influences from what was going on at the time in some of those songs... Doesn't mean its not a fantastic album.
Its just a shitty excuse to try and detract from someones music. |
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11-16-2011, 02:10 AM | #20 |
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no, Gun and Roses suck dude. It's like two steps above Bon Jovi.
and 1991 was not the tail end of the grunge boom. |
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11-16-2011, 03:53 AM | #21 |
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Genius can't be argued or proven really I know that but this proves something:
Google search for ""billy corgan" genius gets about 1,080,000 results Google search for "billy corgan" sucks gets about 167,000 results Google search for "axle rose" genius gets about 1,830,000 results Google search for "axle rose" sucks gets about 26,900 results Rose wins the google war (and these types of searches are done to measure public opinion, it's a credible way to do so) hands down, by light years. I realize that the self proclaimed elite of this board don't care about what anyone else thinks but I only said in my original post that most people would call those guys geniuses (and by that I meant rock fans) but maybe I was wrong. It's clear from the google results that Rose is considered to be superior which I find surprising. |
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11-16-2011, 04:03 AM | #22 |
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11-16-2011, 04:35 AM | #23 |
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11-16-2011, 04:57 AM | #24 |
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hahaha I didn't even notice.
Who really cares. They're both great artists in their own right. But I think Corgan might actually knock one outta the park with this new album. I know hes hyped shit before but the guys due for a great album. |
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11-16-2011, 10:47 AM | #26 | |
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"axl rose" genius > About 1,830,000 results "axl rose" sucks > About 2,650,000 results Now that I spelled the name correctly (if someone would pointed out my spelling mistake in the original post in this thread this wouldn't have happened).... Anyways, Billy Corgan wins this by a mile now. Order is restored in the SP universe and all can rest well. |
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google kim kardashian you think that means she's a genius |
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11-16-2011, 09:39 PM | #29 |
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i always thought his name was morespoon
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