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Old 01-15-2015, 09:02 PM   #481
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Richard Dawkins claims he invented the term "meme"

 
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:02 PM   #482
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No joke, he actually believes that

 
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:30 PM   #483
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As much as I hate Dawkins, he's right. He coined the term "meme" and subsequently gave rise to the "study" of "memetics" in one of his books way back in the 70s. The original use of the terms were obviously not in relation to internet memes as we know them now, but he definitely invented the word.

Fuck even a perfunctory google search would back that up, do your friggin homework Elph. This is why people give you crap man, because you talk about things you haven't done your homework on.

 
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:54 PM   #484
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No pretty sure he just went to the bank with it and a lot of people now think he originally coined it in Selfish Gene but I would have to look it up to figure out where it came from

 
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Old 01-15-2015, 09:56 PM   #485
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Unrelated: Unweaving the Rainbow is a good Dawkins book

 
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Old 01-15-2015, 10:01 PM   #486
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/meme

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1976; < Greek mīmeîsthai ‘to imitate, copy’; coined by R. Dawkins, British biologist
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...n/english/meme

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1970s: from Greek mimēma 'that which is imitated', on the pattern of gene.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/meme

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alteration of mimeme, from mim- (as in mimesis) + -eme
First Known Use: 1976
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=meme

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1976, introduced by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins in "The Selfish Gene," coined by him from Greek sources, such as mimeisthai "to imitate" (see mime), and intended to echo gene.

don't get me wrong, if I could rob Dawkins of any sort of credit he gets from anyone for anything, I would gladly do so because he's a fucking repugnant worm of an excuse for an intellectual. But that right there is pretty fucking comprehensive, eh?

 
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Old 01-15-2015, 10:02 PM   #487
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Jeez i've gotten pretttty sweary in my old age

 
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Old 01-15-2015, 10:12 PM   #488
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Okay

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 03:14 AM   #489
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fuck you, elph!
even after it was pointed out you were wrong, you were still "pretty sure, but i'd have to look it up".
what kind of attitude is that? how about looking it up in the first place, before posting? or at least looking it up after someone pointed it out that you were wrong, instead of replying that you were pretty sure? jesus. F. go back to the grocery store.

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 03:16 AM   #490
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were you jealous of fuzzy, who's proven to be a huge idiot in this thread, and the attention he got for it? do you want a piece of that cake too?
i think you deserved a slice. well done. enjoy.

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 03:19 AM   #491
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Haha

I didn't really want to argue about it

There was an article written about how Dawkins took the word from this other guy and used it in his book but I can't find it now.

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 04:09 AM   #492
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goddamn kids think looking up stuff is work because they've always had a fucking computer

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 04:09 AM   #493
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you are the death of civilization

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 04:21 AM   #494
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I remember in grade 8 having to go to the library to take out books for school projects... This would have been just before I got the internet... Oh how times change.

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 04:36 AM   #495
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Jeez i've gotten pretttty sweary in my old age
i wouldn't say he is an excuse for an intellectual either, give him credit on memetics

if you think chomsky is a nutter you have to tip your hat to his linguistics resume

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:52 AM   #496
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chomsky's extensive knowledge of world politics and 20th century history makes me jealous

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:52 AM   #497
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i don't know how the thread got so long, but i'd like to mention beastie boys

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:47 AM   #498
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Ch-ch-ch-ch-chomsky

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:44 AM   #499
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i wouldn't say he is an excuse for an intellectual either, give him credit on memetics

if you think chomsky is a nutter you have to tip your hat to his linguistics resume
Nah Chomsky is fucking great. Dawkins is a patronising shit who doesn't understand anything. Chomsky is a patronising shit who perfectly understands everything

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 11:12 AM   #500
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you are the death of civilization
ZZZZZING

 
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:40 PM   #501
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When you make posts like that all youre doing is exposing your own intellectual insecurity

Also it doesnt make any sense at all

 
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Old 01-17-2015, 06:01 AM   #502
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this is the last thing Freddie Mercury sang before he died. He couldn't finish the song so Brian May sang the last verse. Laugh all you want but it's fucking haunting and beautiful.


 
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i don't think capitalism's track record is any better than communism's

 
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Old 01-18-2015, 12:10 AM   #504
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Workers uniting is not outdated. What are you talking about?

 
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