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Old 02-04-2020, 05:27 PM   #1
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Question Should access to art be considered a fundamental human right?

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Old 02-04-2020, 05:27 PM   #2
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Srs replies only pls

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:01 PM   #3
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:04 PM   #4
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:04 PM   #5
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I had a feeling you'd be on my side Shallowed

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:05 PM   #6
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Took, on the other hand, hates his fellow human and has been brought low by capitalism

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:08 PM   #7
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Art being behind a financial transaction makes it fundamentally exclusive to significant chunks of the population.

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:08 PM   #8
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Ticketmaster is gonna send people after you

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:09 PM   #9
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I can't imagine any reasonable artist feeling differently either. Boris doesn't care if you download their albums Took. Just support them to the extent to which you are capable. They seem cool. I bet they make music primarily for the enjoyment of it and also to make people feel good

 
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Art being behind a financial transaction makes it fundamentally exclusive to significant chunks of the population.
Which is problematic yes?

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:10 PM   #11
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I guess there's not a whole lot to discuss here huh?

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:10 PM   #12
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This thread is a failure and I apologize

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:11 PM   #13
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:11 PM   #14
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Somebody get in here and disagree

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:22 PM   #15
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I would say that any good museum is constantly struggling to balance making art accessible to everyone and staying afloat in an increasingly poorly funded sector

Under Bernie, Jeff Bezos would be forced to run forever in a giant hamster wheel that generates clean energy, which is then sold to power plants in exchange for grant money for all museums

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:24 PM   #16
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Who will think of the libraries

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:33 PM   #17
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Which is problematic yes?
Not necessarily.

At least from the perspective of filmmaking, to deliver a film to the minimum level of quality audiences expect nowadays, it requires hiring a not insignificant number of professionals with exclusive dedication for an extended period of time.
Not to mention dealing with very expensive equipment and depending on the complexity of the production producing sets, props and costumes can cost a whole lot of money.

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:35 PM   #18
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But does excluding people who were never going to be able to afford to contribute to the financial success of the film in the first place help anyone?

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:36 PM   #19
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Fuck yeah now we're cooking with gas

 
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To be clear I'm not suggesting that artists should not be paid for their work

 
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But does excluding people who were never going to be able to afford to contribute to the financial success of the film in the first place help anyone?
From a business perspective those people are completely irrelevant. It's already a reality that more people will watch any given movie than the amount of people who will pay for it.

Mind you i'm not talking about being financially successful, but simply being financially solvent.

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:48 PM   #22
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I mean yeah I understand that. But my intention was not to look at the issue from a business perspective

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:51 PM   #23
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I just think that art has a unique capacity to make people better, more open-minded, and more compassionate. And it seems like everyone should have access to that. Maybe it's even better for everyone that way?

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:54 PM   #24
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I hear you. On that front I don't think you'll find many people who'd disagree on principle.

 
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Then again, what does it mean to be made freely available to everyone?
What about people who can't afford TVs, stereos or computers? Are we including those too?

 
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I hear you. On that front I don't think you'll find many people who'd disagree on principle.
Yeah I think you're right. Which is why this thread is already an unquestionable failure for which I'd like to apologize once more

 
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Old 02-04-2020, 06:57 PM   #27
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Then again, what does it mean to be made freely available to everyone?
What about people who can't afford TVs, stereos or computers? Are we including those too?
Sorry, I'm a little too distracted by Paul McCartney to answer this question right now

 
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I guess I'm wondering more about a general attitude toward it than the specifics of how it might be done. I'd say it's probably best to make it as freely available as is feasible? I wonder if maybe the thinking behind libraries and museums might be extended to cover other forms of less traditionally exalted media. Places where you could see older films for free would be pretty cool right? Free concerts are also great and a delightful part of any good city I think. But yes, you're right. It's much easier said than done isn't it?

 
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