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02-28-2008, 07:22 PM | #31 |
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"I am the regent, the marquis,
sowing my bad seeds." I always thought it was "sowing my disease" which is way cooler IMO. Zeitgeist lyrics are pretty good. Corgan's lyrics have only been a problem for me on MSOTS. |
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02-28-2008, 07:56 PM | #32 |
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Zeitgeist lyrics are below the usual corgan standard IMO. Nothing memorable but they aren't bad.
TFE and the chicago songs were really great lyrically. I know it's Corgan's first turn on the bigger world times are a changing kind of deal but every other artist that I like who has done this kind of thing has done it much better and with more conviction then Corgan did. Zietgeist isn't a bad record it's just not good enough to compete with all the amazing records that I own. |
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02-28-2008, 09:35 PM | #33 |
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i like these for some reason.
I feel a coming age now I feel a dawn in you A certain sun keeps rising On my belief in you the rest aren't too good. |
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02-28-2008, 10:14 PM | #34 |
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As many have mentioned, the lyrics for Pomp and Circumstnaces are some of the best in recent memory for Corgan. I also like the lyrics for Stellar...
"Is it wrong to say, there's God and then there's faith?" |
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02-28-2008, 10:17 PM | #35 |
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"'cause you don’t want me no more
but babe don’t worry 'cause when you scratch-scratch my door" sounds like some jessica simpson or brtiney crap... "you will want it all as St. Patrick pipes on!" yeah, great lyrics. but all in all 7sob's lyrics are ok i guess, better than most of the album. but that's not saying much. i don't get how starz can be thought of as great lyrics though. even if i try, i can't see it. |
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02-28-2008, 10:36 PM | #36 |
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Those parts you quoted just add to the cynicism of the entire song, trev. Within the context of the rest of the lyrics, they are quite poignant.
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02-29-2008, 01:00 AM | #37 | |
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Exactly. There are lines that are certainly cheesy when taken out of context, but that can be said of any Pumpkin album. 7SoB is definitely a cynical if not aggressive song, so it's supposed to have that sort of tongue-in-cheek aspect in certain parts. |
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02-29-2008, 02:45 AM | #38 |
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02-29-2008, 02:58 AM | #39 |
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02-29-2008, 03:02 AM | #40 |
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i agree. rep that!
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02-29-2008, 03:18 AM | #41 |
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Machina has a few clunkers but overall the lyrics are at least interesting (so beats the final coda, of a vinyl storm, one last cherry cola, to hold up her dead arms), unlike Zeitgeist where I feel like any band could have written them because they are so generic. I always loved the Pumpkins for being one of the very very few bands out there known for their good lyrics. Lots of bands have good musicians, lots have good melodies or guitar hooks, very few are known for having good lyrics. I just expect more. And what is so terrible about Gish? They are certainly a lot more abstract and spaced out than later Corgan lyrics, but there is a simple beauty in she nose she nose
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02-29-2008, 09:53 AM | #42 |
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02-29-2008, 12:19 PM | #43 |
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02-29-2008, 12:50 PM | #44 |
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02-29-2008, 02:16 PM | #45 |
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FGAC also has great lyrics:
And when they build their cross of death you won't build your own. It's Time to Wake Up It's Time to Wake Up For Good I Can't Help You thou I should Zeitgeist is not a terrible album and doesn't have terrible lyrics. It is a good R'n'R album with good lyrics. Nothing can stand up to these lyrics from Rocket: Bleed in your own blood Dream of your own love I miss, me I miss everything I'll never be or The moon is ours the stars invite think I'll leave tonight soon, I find myself alone to, relax and fade away Do you, know what's coming down |
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02-29-2008, 03:04 PM | #46 | |
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02-29-2008, 03:41 PM | #47 |
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It always struck me that was the whole point of them. Same with the "I wan't to love you when your happy..." lyric in Tarantula. Remember, Corgan was channeling his vitriolic, nihlistic mid-twenties self in 7 Shades. It fits the personality profile, as well as the themes of the album. I gotta side with exactlythesame and Reymgel on this one.
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02-29-2008, 04:41 PM | #48 | |
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all of this is true |
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02-29-2008, 04:43 PM | #49 |
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so its the worst lyrics on any pumpkins album, but it has the weakest lyrics after machina?
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02-29-2008, 08:28 PM | #50 |
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I appreciate P+C's lyrics. It's especially good live. Loved it here in Pittsburgh. I wish they played it that way on the album
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02-29-2008, 08:42 PM | #51 |
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02-29-2008, 08:46 PM | #52 |
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02-29-2008, 08:51 PM | #53 |
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When I was born I lost
When I was freed I fought Now that I’m loved I’m caught Between the rest and this tragic mess An invited guest Torn, broken and frayed Oh don’t we face War, sunshine and grace Oh won’t you stay For a while We can fail in style I can hold your smile For a while What was once new now gone What was once praised now wrong As they go, we can say we know But what do we know But warm sunshine and graves Don't we see What's bitter to taste Torn, broken and frayed Don't we face War, sunshine and graves Won't you stay 'Cause I won't tell I won't tell a soul That I'm mad as hell Torn, broken and frayed I'm torn, broken and frayed No, I'm cold, worn out and shamed --- Seriously, unless you are some mainstream Republican hack, how can any American NOT relate with these lyrics in at least some way? This is one of the best things Billy has written lyrically. It's simple but so effective because it's, well, a clear indication of the spirit of the age. For all the crap Zeitgeist gets for the songs having nothing to do with the title, this proves people wrong, at least partially. What Billy is saying here is what so many people probably want to on a daily basis. They never will because they want to keep being hopeful for a country that's going down the spiral largely in part because of a stupid war. It's poetic. There's definitely a romantic aspect to it but he's tying it into the war. |
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02-29-2008, 09:38 PM | #54 | |
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02-29-2008, 10:56 PM | #55 | |
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Funny you mention that... because it was your AG scans of the lyrics that prompted me to listen to the album the other day while reading along on SPFC. After reading through Rose March, I thought to myself "Hm... that was actually pretty decent. I wonder if Zeitgeist has any gems in terms of lyrics." As it turns out, it does. |
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02-29-2008, 11:01 PM | #56 |
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cool.
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02-29-2008, 11:19 PM | #57 |
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