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Old 07-15-2014, 04:14 PM   #1
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Default Age of Innocence

Really is a top notch song maybe i will need to relisten to machina some 14 years later perhaps my earballs will think of different things?

desolation yes!
hesitation no!

what the fuck does that mean who care

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:19 PM   #2
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it means we are doomed

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:46 PM   #3
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Rock solid jam. Love it.

Always pair that one with Wound for some reason in my mind, and while Wound might beat it out by a titch somehow, it's a close call.

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:49 PM   #4
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imploding voice is the most underrated jam

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:50 PM   #5
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yes to age. yes to imploding voice. yes to wound. all awesome.

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:56 PM   #6
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I love both machina I & II.. (and the EPs from MII, there's some great stuff on there - stuff like 'slow dawn').. although as a whole, I think I like Machina I a bit more, only because I love so many of its songs.. there's only like 2-3 songs that I don't like as much as the others (crying tree of mercury, glass&the ghost children, blue skies bring tears).. whereas on Machina II, I really dig only about a half of it

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:58 PM   #7
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probably a good time to post the acoustic imploding voice

https://archive.org/details/tsp2000-07-02.flac16

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:53 PM   #8
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Acoustic version of Imploding Voice really showcases how great of a song it is. The production on all of Machina really blew it for me though.

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:54 PM   #9
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Plus I liked preferred the title Virex

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:03 PM   #10
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good song but probably the weakest outro on any of his albums

i remember reading the lyrics before the album dropped and i thought it'd be a thrash metal song coz of 'desolation yes hesitation no'

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:17 PM   #11
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yes to age. yes to imploding voice. yes to wound. all awesome.
yes to home!
hopefully some day we'll have a clear audible version of white spyder and a couple of the other M2 tracks that were so loud.
and yes to the arising version of blue skies.

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:23 PM   #12
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good song but probably the weakest outro on any of his albums
it was definitely a good show opener. i don't really know how machina should have ended. maybe omit BSBT and close with let me give the world to you and home?

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:24 PM   #13
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Anyone have a link handy for piano crying tree?

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:28 PM   #14
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Acoustic version of Imploding Voice really showcases how great of a song it is. The production on all of Machina really blew it for me though.

Yeah, it's a shame the production ruined many songs. I really love Wound but I can't really enjoy the studio version. Another song that was ruined for me was Crying Tree of Mercury, I prefer the piano only version.

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:30 PM   #15
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Anyone have a link handy for piano crying tree?
I have a mp3 of the song, don't remember where I got it. I can upload it

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:37 PM   #16
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That would be fine. Thanks.

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:47 PM   #17
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here it is:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5tyn1wrqcx...28piano%29.mp3

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 06:48 PM   #18
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Sweet I'll grab it in a few. Thanks for the quick fix.

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:16 PM   #19
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Age of Innocence is the song that made me buy Machina. I was kind of put off by all the middling response to the album so I didn't bother until I heard this song, and figured everyone must be crazy if it has songs like this on it.

Well, they weren't crazy, Age of Innocence just turned out to be one of the best songs on the album, by far. This Time is also very underrated.

I still prefer Machina II overall.

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 08:22 PM   #20
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JC looks funny in that schoolboy uniform

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:02 PM   #21
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I saw Smash Pump at an instore during this time

 
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Old 07-15-2014, 09:56 PM   #22
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it wuz tite

 
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:44 AM   #23
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imploding voice is the most underrated jam
people pile on top of this and heavy metal machine and i dont get it. love those songs.

 
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:51 AM   #24
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Machina has always been good, welcome to the winner's circle

 
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Old 07-16-2014, 03:17 AM   #25
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Hate HMM but always liked imploding voice
I didn't know they were lumped together
The standard is basically HMM, BSBT, and uh CTOM if I have all my acronyms right
Those three suck
Most of the rest is real good
I skip Gaze a lot though

 
Old 07-16-2014, 03:23 AM   #26
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the greatest unfinished album ever

 
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Old 07-16-2014, 03:40 AM   #27
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JC looks funny in that schoolboy uniform
At the end, Billy says "See Jimmy, you ARE the difference".

 
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Old 07-16-2014, 04:38 AM   #28
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Acoustic version of Imploding Voice really showcases how great of a song it is. The production on all of Machina really blew it for me though.
Totally, same thing with Wound too. Acoustic version is almost perfect and album version is like a whole different song.

 
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Old 07-16-2014, 04:44 AM   #29
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Old 07-16-2014, 02:42 PM   #30
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Age is a great song and especially the last minute or so is awesome, but I agree with whoever said the outro is lackluster. I always feel like some crazy guitar thing should happen at the end or there should be some sort of extended outro, but instead the song just peters out

 
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