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12-31-2007, 07:46 PM | #1 |
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Why were The Pumpkins received so badly at Lollapalooza 94?
Billy always made it sound like it was the worst thing ever.
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12-31-2007, 07:54 PM | #2 |
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didn't they replace nirvana after cobain died? maybe that was it.
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12-31-2007, 08:30 PM | #3 |
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because billy cried and was a dick alot, and they wore dresses
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12-31-2007, 08:58 PM | #4 |
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i remember pavement was bitching about them bcos there was a rumor that bolly prevented so-and-so from playing the bill...
can't remember who (was it pavement themselves)? |
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12-31-2007, 09:24 PM | #5 |
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cause they were better then everyone else, and wore dresses
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01-01-2008, 01:53 AM | #6 |
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I know this was really only one of many reasons, but many of the bands of the day seemed to resent the ego, ambitions, musical and artistic ethos, etc. of Billy Corgan. Pavement and The Breeders, I know had a bit of a problem with them. Then rather than just trying to be "professional" about it, Billy really took that shit personally and tended to project it into his performance and onto the audience at various points along the tour.
Also, of course...Nirvana was supposed to headline the tour but had to drop out for obvious reasons. |
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01-01-2008, 02:03 AM | #7 |
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ok, i was at one of these shows, and let me tell you, they were NOT received badly. At least not at the show I went to. It was an incredible show, and the crowd was wild, they were really into it. I think a lot of the negativity was in billy's head. It's like the guy just wanted SOMETHING to bitch about, even if he had to invent it. I remember those days well, and people loved this band back then. Billy is paranoid, disgustingly so.
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01-01-2008, 02:06 AM | #8 | |
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01-01-2008, 02:06 AM | #9 |
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which is why i shan't be listening to American Gothic again any time soon
BURN!!!! |
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01-01-2008, 02:24 AM | #10 | |
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P.S. The brother of the guy I went to my first Pumpkins show with (who was 9 years older than said guy, and who was acting as our taxi that night) went to the 1994 Lollapalooza show at the Starplex as well. We were listening enviously to his recount of the experience on our way there. Last edited by stumpycat : 01-01-2008 at 02:33 AM. |
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01-01-2008, 03:26 AM | #11 |
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speaking of neil strauss, i just came across this in his book The Style Diaries:
"I'm doing it, first and foremost, to see if I can. Rivers Cuomo, the singer of Weezer, first planted the idea in my head. He was explaining that he'd recently taken a vow of celibacy as part of a Buddhist meditation program. This meant abstaining not just from sex but also masturbation. As a result, he said, he'd never felt more energized, creative, or focused in his life. At the time, I interpreted it less as advice than as further confirmation of his peculiarities. But a few weeks later, Billy Corgan of the Smashing Pumpkins told me he doesn't let his band have sex or orgasm on the day of a concert, so they can release all that power onstage." |
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01-01-2008, 03:28 AM | #12 |
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"power", eh?
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01-01-2008, 03:29 AM | #13 |
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"doesn't let his band"? How is this monitored?
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01-01-2008, 03:29 AM | #14 | ||
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01-01-2008, 03:39 AM | #15 |
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i haven't had sex in like, 3 days. I'm very powerful right now.
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01-01-2008, 03:53 AM | #16 | |
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01-01-2008, 04:01 AM | #17 |
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How can you hate Bill in a dress going "Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gim gim gim gim nothin"?
Come to think of it, that kinda says it all. |
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01-01-2008, 04:04 AM | #18 |
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Also, was this the show where the riot almost occured?
http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tsp1994-08-05 It's fucking hilarious when James and Billy start antagonizing the crowd. |
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01-01-2008, 04:05 AM | #19 |
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i liked the stupid rant; but at that time i hung on billy's every word like it was my fucking religion. I've since grown out of that.
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01-01-2008, 04:06 AM | #20 |
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01-01-2008, 04:07 AM | #21 | |
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01-01-2008, 04:08 AM | #22 |
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01-01-2008, 04:08 AM | #23 |
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this thread is 14 years too late
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01-01-2008, 04:09 AM | #24 | |
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01-01-2008, 04:10 AM | #25 | |
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01-01-2008, 04:11 AM | #26 |
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The rant that night was the last straw in a truly shitty day of horrible events. Bad venue, hot sunny at the start then rained for an hour so we missed some acts, then freezing cold. The crowds had no tolerance for self indulgent wankery, I also had the feeling Billy made the rant even longer to antagonize the crowd. I think he was blowing shows on purpose to build some kind everyone hates us cred.
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01-01-2008, 04:11 AM | #27 |
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he's a duck!
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01-01-2008, 04:14 AM | #28 | |
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01-01-2008, 04:27 AM | #29 |
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the beastie boys were awesome in dallas on that tour.
i've loved them since i first heard 'fight for your right' when i was a little kid, so it was pretty obvious i was going to enjoy them. holy shit, i was 11 or something when that album came out; how is it they've managed to stay good all of these years, and bc can't hold it together? |
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01-01-2008, 04:59 AM | #30 |
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when jim morrison released that power onstage he was arrested.
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