Widow Wake My Mind - Page 7

slunken · 01-18-2010, 12:17 AM

Bush had some good songs.

SPLATTER · 01-18-2010, 12:45 AM

does song for a son and WMM even make the final cut on 16 Stone?

dustrock · 01-18-2010, 12:56 AM

I mean, think about MSOTS and tell me which tracks on it are worse than Widow.

Probably "Yeah" and that's about it.

Oh shit, here's my brilliant summary from the O-board:

Billy has always worked best with a gun against his head, now that he's got the gun, we're all held hostage.

Caine Walker · 01-18-2010, 12:59 AM

speaking of, what has the oboard response been?

duovamp · 01-18-2010, 01:01 AM

Having never visited there in my life, I'm going to guess... they fucking love it. I imagine every person there as being Monte.

duovamp · 01-18-2010, 01:02 AM

Information Technology.

ravenguy2000 · 01-18-2010, 01:06 AM

This is the worst Smashing Pumpkins song.

duovamp · 01-18-2010, 01:07 AM

Worse than Take Me Down?

ravenguy2000 · 01-18-2010, 01:12 AM

Take Me Down is fine for what it is. This song has nothing of worth in it. At all.

Eulogy · 01-18-2010, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duovamp

Having never visited there in my life, I'm going to guess... they fucking love it. I imagine every person there as being Monte.

it's sort of split, actually

which should tell you just how awful this really is.

waltermcphilp · 01-18-2010, 01:25 AM

The drumming sounds like it was done by a one armed monkey.

I can't imagine billy even listened to this fucking thing before he released it.

It is so amateurish it's sad.

Musica · 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Art Rioter

A perplexing song. I didn't really mind the A version, but this isn't going down too well.

I agree with you. I like the song from SITS live version. I was wondering why Billy doesn't put more words in the lyric, but I like the song. I say I don't like that producing.

If I remember correctly, many ppl picked up Widow for their fav/good/okay song in the SITS live thread in here, and they don't like studio version. Is this the same thing happened when MSOTS released? I was a bit sad with MSOTS because I felt that passionate rock sound of live version were gone and all turned into pop songs.

I'm wondering for Gish, SD, MCIS, Adore... same reaction was raised from fans?

So, while reading this thread, I have some dry laugh for that some of you say MSOTS is better than this song. I know what you mean. The reason I laugh is we sounds like we almost give up TSP like Billy does us, or our a passing grade for the quality of TSP song has been getting lower than before?

redbreegull · 01-18-2010, 01:57 AM

I have to agree, this is the single worst thing he has ever written.

Mablak · 01-18-2010, 02:11 AM

I agree with jesus cambodia that GLOW, like a black hole, has a magnitude of suck that cannot be exceeded, but this song is pretty close.

pineapple*soul · 01-18-2010, 02:14 AM

I dunno, I'm enjoying it. it's no rock-by-the-numbers like I felt a few of the other recent releases were. There's a bit of imagination to this, a bit of invention. I like the mid-8. I kinda like the intro. It's kooky. :S
But so much of it is just total rubbish, the drums, the lyrics, the ascending bits, the lyrics, the fucking lyrics and the lyrics.

But when I think about it. What I like about this song has nothing to do with what an SP song should be. this is just vapid and soulless. No passion to it at all, and that's a defining characteristic of SP to me, there's always passion.

I am full of meh

pineapple*soul · 01-18-2010, 02:17 AM

I'm going to go listen to Adore now, for a week.
Fuck Corganist and his 'misstep' comment earlier in this thread.

Edited for evidence:

Quote:

You know, I sometimes forget that Netphoria is the Bizarro world of SP fandom where Adore is seen as Billy's creative peak instead of the massive misstep that it really was.

busty sinclaire · 01-18-2010, 02:27 AM

I played it for my boyfriend and he asked if it was a new everclear song.

wHATcOLOR · 01-18-2010, 02:31 AM

in addition to the hilariously bad part from 1:49 - 1:55 others have rightly pointed out, the fill at 1:06 almost made me spit out my water it's so hilarious

busty sinclaire · 01-18-2010, 02:32 AM

has anyone really listened to zwan? zwan is 100x better than this song. this song is borderline easy listening.

TuralyonW3 · 01-18-2010, 02:35 AM

I'm going to have bad dreams of OH OH OH OH OH OH

waltermcphilp · 01-18-2010, 02:41 AM

I am jack's sense of rejectment

28if · 01-18-2010, 02:54 AM

this is purely awful

BlissedandGone2 · 01-18-2010, 03:32 AM

billy what the fuck did you do?

reprise85 · 01-18-2010, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busty sinclaire

has anyone really listened to zwan? zwan is 100x better than this song. this song is borderline easy listening.

yes, i was thinking of how to express this earlier. you got it. it's easy listening, with a touch of really shitty part/fill choices.

xforewarnedx · 01-18-2010, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musica

I agree with you. I like the song from SITS live version. I was wondering why Billy doesn't put more words in the lyric, but I like the song. I say I don't like that producing.

If I remember correctly, many ppl picked up Widow for their fav/good/okay song in the SITS live thread in here, and they don't like studio version. Is this the same thing happened when MSOTS released? I was a bit sad with MSOTS because I felt that passionate rock sound of live version were gone and all turned into pop songs.

I'm wondering for Gish, SD, MCIS, Adore... same reaction was raised from fans?

So, while reading this thread, I have some dry laugh for that some of you say MSOTS is better than this song. I know what you mean. The reason I laugh is we sounds like we almost give up TSP like Billy does us, or our a passing grade for the quality of TSP song has been getting lower than before?

THANK YOU! You took the words out of my mouth. Everyone bitches but when they first heard it, it was oh so good to hear new stuff and even going back and listening to the live version of the song, everyone was cheering it just as much as the next song. I think I heard people sing the OH OH OH parts along with him. I didn't hear anyone booing or saying no that sucks!

Twineball · 01-18-2010, 04:13 AM

Not much of a fan of this song.

Cheradenine · 01-18-2010, 04:34 AM

Hmm this is the first time I stopped listening half-way through a new Pumpkins song :/

I can see why he's not charging anything for this.

It could do well at the Eurovision Song Contest though: YouTube - The Toppers - Shine (The Netherlands)

Cool As Ice Cream · 01-18-2010, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xforewarnedx

THANK YOU! You took the words out of my mouth. Everyone bitches but when they first heard it, it was oh so good to hear new stuff and even going back and listening to the live version of the song, everyone was cheering it just as much as the next song. I think I heard people sing the OH OH OH parts along with him. I didn't hear anyone booing or saying no that sucks!

these shows only had an audience of 50. obviously everyone there had a monty-level of fandom, and thought everything was awesome. you shouldn't assume that they're a good representation of the sp fanbase or the members of this board. i mean, seriously, singing along to oh oh ohs? did you hug each other after the show?

CrabbMan · 01-18-2010, 04:48 AM

There's a lot of serious over-reaction going on here. The oh's worked way better as a live sing-along, and even then I could take a pass on it. There are some real cringeworthy moments in the song, like the ascending bit, obviously, but it's not the end of the world. The drums are fine, and they don't need to be anything spectacular for a song like this. For those who seem absolutely certain that this worst song Billy has ever made, you're embarrassing yourselves with such obvious knee-jerk reaction to your disappointment. Wait a year and read this thread again.
I'm mildly disappointed, but I wasn't impressed by this song live, and didn't think it would get any better in the studio. And I don't think it did. But you know what, I like the production, I like the arrangement. I'm kinda digging the sound Billy is creating with the retro synth. Very Kaleidyscopey.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucy Faringold

Also more nice organ work but I'm not sure about the very high-pitched synth sounds in the background of the verses that are kind of uncomfortable to listen to.

I love it! Probably because it reminds me of video game I played 20 years ago (I don't know what, but it's just very familiar).

chris1979 · 01-18-2010, 05:10 AM

Hmm I don't know... it's a pop song, produced as a pop song. The problem is I was expecting to hear guitar-driven rock music, so it's hard to fill my expectations. I've been listening a lot to the Dinosaur Jr. reunion albums lately and really I have to say compared to that stuff it's probably impossible to impress me at the moment.

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01-18-2010, 12:17 AM	#181
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	Bush had some good songs.

01-18-2010, 12:45 AM	#182
SPLATTER Demi-God Location: New York Posts: 424	does song for a son and WMM even make the final cut on 16 Stone?

01-18-2010, 12:56 AM	#183
dustrock debunked! Location: Part-alien, part-human, part-robot, part-star-crossed lover and part-mercury filled Posts: 2,072	I mean, think about MSOTS and tell me which tracks on it are worse than Widow. Probably "Yeah" and that's about it. Oh shit, here's my brilliant summary from the O-board: Billy has always worked best with a gun against his head, now that he's got the gun, we're all held hostage.

01-18-2010, 12:59 AM	#184
Caine Walker Braindead Posts: 15,482	speaking of, what has the oboard response been?

01-18-2010, 01:01 AM	#185
duovamp Brazilian Blouselord Location: heavy metal pool party Posts: 35,781	Having never visited there in my life, I'm going to guess... they fucking love it. I imagine every person there as being Monte.

01-18-2010, 01:02 AM	#186
duovamp Brazilian Blouselord Location: heavy metal pool party Posts: 35,781	Information Technology.

01-18-2010, 01:06 AM	#187
ravenguy2000 NO FATS Location: NO FEMS Posts: 29,003	This is the worst Smashing Pumpkins song.

01-18-2010, 01:07 AM	#188
duovamp Brazilian Blouselord Location: heavy metal pool party Posts: 35,781	Worse than Take Me Down?

01-18-2010, 01:12 AM	#189
ravenguy2000 NO FATS Location: NO FEMS Posts: 29,003	Take Me Down is fine for what it is. This song has nothing of worth in it. At all.

01-18-2010, 01:25 AM	#191
waltermcphilp Socialphobic Location: I DO C-C-C-COCAINE Posts: 11,137	The drumming sounds like it was done by a one armed monkey. I can't imagine billy even listened to this fucking thing before he released it. It is so amateurish it's sad.

01-18-2010, 01:57 AM	#193
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,752	I have to agree, this is the single worst thing he has ever written.

01-18-2010, 02:11 AM	#194
Mablak Minion of Satan Location: Well, if it isn't my old friend, Mr. McGreg, with a leg for an arm and an arm for a leg! Posts: 6,411	I agree with jesus cambodia that GLOW, like a black hole, has a magnitude of suck that cannot be exceeded, but this song is pretty close.

01-18-2010, 02:14 AM	#195
pineapple*soul Ownz Posts: 586	I dunno, I'm enjoying it. it's no rock-by-the-numbers like I felt a few of the other recent releases were. There's a bit of imagination to this, a bit of invention. I like the mid-8. I kinda like the intro. It's kooky. :S But so much of it is just total rubbish, the drums, the lyrics, the ascending bits, the lyrics, the fucking lyrics and the lyrics. But when I think about it. What I like about this song has nothing to do with what an SP song should be. this is just vapid and soulless. No passion to it at all, and that's a defining characteristic of SP to me, there's always passion. I am full of meh

01-18-2010, 02:27 AM	#197
busty sinclaire Pledge Location: forgetful milkman's quadrangle Posts: 123	I played it for my boyfriend and he asked if it was a new everclear song.

01-18-2010, 02:31 AM	#198
wHATcOLOR THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! Location: \|\| MY NAME IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID ROCK!! Posts: 47,245	in addition to the hilariously bad part from 1:49 - 1:55 others have rightly pointed out, the fill at 1:06 almost made me spit out my water it's so hilarious

01-18-2010, 02:32 AM	#199
busty sinclaire Pledge Location: forgetful milkman's quadrangle Posts: 123	has anyone really listened to zwan? zwan is 100x better than this song. this song is borderline easy listening.

01-18-2010, 02:35 AM	#200
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,684	I'm going to have bad dreams of OH OH OH OH OH OH

01-18-2010, 02:41 AM	#201
waltermcphilp Socialphobic Location: I DO C-C-C-COCAINE Posts: 11,137	I am jack's sense of rejectment

01-18-2010, 02:54 AM	#202
28if Apocalyptic Poster Location: yeah seriously i think we've more than established a consensus on reality, it's not that abstract. Posts: 3,454	this is purely awful

01-18-2010, 03:32 AM	#203
BlissedandGone2 Minion of Satan Location: You don't play guitar hero if you are a guitar hero. Posts: 6,008	billy what the fuck did you do?

01-18-2010, 04:13 AM	#206
Twineball Demi-God Location: Minneapolis Posts: 351	Not much of a fan of this song.

01-18-2010, 04:34 AM	#207
Cheradenine Pledge Location: Utrecht Posts: 113	Hmm this is the first time I stopped listening half-way through a new Pumpkins song :/ I can see why he's not charging anything for this. It could do well at the Eurovision Song Contest though: YouTube - The Toppers - Shine (The Netherlands)

01-18-2010, 05:10 AM	#210
chris1979 Pledge Posts: 246	Hmm I don't know... it's a pop song, produced as a pop song. The problem is I was expecting to hear guitar-driven rock music, so it's hard to fill my expectations. I've been listening a lot to the Dinosaur Jr. reunion albums lately and really I have to say compared to that stuff it's probably impossible to impress me at the moment.